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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg with GM with Chris

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on the para cast we bring on an old

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friend of the show someone who is one of

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those real honest-to-goodness

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expert UFO researchers he also covers

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various cryptozoological phenomena and

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he is none other than Stan Gordon of

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course he became famous with the

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Kecksburg UFO sighting but there's a lot

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going on especially in the past year in

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Pennsylvania Stan welcome to the show

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are we talking here about something that

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can be categorized as a UFO flap because

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I do get reports of sightings year after

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year I think what was significant about

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last year was the fact that we're seeing

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some of those some of the like the old

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classic UFO cases of not just lights in

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the sky that we've been hearing so many

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things about in the last 15 years but

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many of these were really detailed

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close-up observations of something very

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unusual on the sky that's an interesting

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thing to hear that it seemed to me than

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a lot of the sightings you had in recent

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years tend not to be the close-up stuff

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that you had like in the 50s 60s and 70s

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when people were saying gee UFOs are

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gone and we have a lot of stuff going on

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all that area that I used to work in so

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we're seeing that kind of sighting again

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with a lot of detail close-up live stuff

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well again even in the past 3 4 5 years

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detailed reports but we seem to have an

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increase last year in some of these

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events and you know a lot of people when

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they talk about UFO sightings they're

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visualizing these large discs and

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into since the 60s of these generally

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lot of these cases they're very close

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so what's her response she grabs her

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movies where spheres are used as some

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surveillance back when you heard a

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surface of the object it appear to be

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floorboard and it begins to move towards

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your first correction and then it became

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in the vehicle at the time but just a

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absolutely bizarre I've never heard of a

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sighting case like that that's what do

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the early early reports back in the 60s

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Pittsburgh and this little sphere was

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hovering right above these fellows who

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were golfing and they were taking their

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their golf clubs swinging this thing and

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as they would swing in it it would rise

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up and get out of race and come back

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and disappeared and but I have quite a

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explanation of these things what do they

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say about we understand you know with a

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UFO they could say it's a conventional

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aircraft but what do you say about these

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little spheres well again it's been a

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part of the phenomena for many many

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years sure but it's a part of the

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phenomena that a lot of people out

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small globes of light in their homes and

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other situations during some of their

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experiences and in fact there are many

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activity and it's interesting I'm sure

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Bigfoot investigators out searched

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relevant the Bigfoot didn't find any

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evidence a Bigfoot but came across UFO

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encounters so things are happening Chris

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haunted golf ball but in terms of yeah

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of combination reports we discussed last

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give us a quick recap over that case

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of a Fayette County I said he Union down

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what was taking place and what was going

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on and just getting a little background

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people I've interviewed in a multitude

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investigations but I never got to see it

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that time and as information locally was

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hotline my phone in the house was just

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being inundated with reports of not only

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getting calls it it was far more than I

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living at home were you out on your own

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this guy doing well actually my mother

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had passed away very young and my father

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young and that anyhow they

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about it and the kids were coming up to

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me in fact one of the the first big foot

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doesn't it you have to wonder though why

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people go necking near a cemetery now do

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you think that's got to cause a problem

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Stan Gordon joining gene and Chris

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intense dreams about a beautiful woman

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the para cast and Gordon joins us and

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we're talking about his ongoing research

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into UFOs in cryptozoological phenomena

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and we were emphasizing at the beginning

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there before we got into this other

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cases you're talking about the fact that

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there have been a larger number of UFO

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sightings in recent years a lot of

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really compelling detailed cases in 2012

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and a lot of reports of these tiny

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spheres that sometimes they're seen in

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people's homes and I suggest as you

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basically mentioned earlier maybe a

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surveillance device I was particularly

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interested where he talked about the

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fact that someone hits it and it becomes

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two so if you hit the two again to

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become four let's go back to what you

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were talking about here near the

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cemetery

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okay well how's this going back and

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talking about the early days when I was

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in high school and there was a kind of a

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rural remote area and it was an area

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called the Livermore Cemetery where

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there was a lot of alleged haunting type

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of accounts and a lot of kids would go

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parking out there but what they would

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come to me with stories the fact that

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they're out there parking and out of the

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woods came this gorilla that what throws

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rocks with their cars and I go back into

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the woods and then years later

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historically that was a very active area

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all along the general region for Bigfoot

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sightings so that may have been one of

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the early Bigfoot studies that we have

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on record but as I was mentioning to you

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69 I set up this hotline and I was

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overcome with reports so I decided to

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set up a research group and that was the

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first of three research groups over the

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years that was the first one was called

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a Westmoreland County UFO study group

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and it was my determination to try to

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set up a group of research people

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scientists engineers technicians people

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who had specialized training to evaluate

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these cases and respond hopefully while

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the phenomena is ongoing and get there

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very quickly and that's what I did and

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with my electronics background we set up

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a

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coming in so then we get into the summer

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of 1973 when things get much much more

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intriguing and that's when you had this

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massive outbreak of Bigfoot sightings

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across the state of Pennsylvania the

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first started here in southwest PA and

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then it began to spread across the state

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and other parts of the state and I went

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on it to 1974 and it was just incredible

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I mean there were multitudes of Bigfoot

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reports and if you've read my solid

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invasion book this is the book and

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focuses on all these events and just too

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much even talked about today but it was

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incredible you know when I started

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looking to Bigfoot

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back in the 60s I came into the field

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open-minded that a possibility that some

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of these may be encounters with some

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type of unknown primate which many

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people still believe today and I and I

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keep an open mind as to what these

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things is right really because I'm

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convinced that's a Bigfoot phenomena is

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real the question is what are we dealing

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with many questions grows during this

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period of time in 73 and 74 as weren't

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investigating these cases because many

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very unusual events were taking place as

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these sightings continue to occur and

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many are in daylight sometimes multiple

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reports on the same day from widespread

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areas sometimes multiple creature

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reports lots of times get out in the

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field and there's some type of physical

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evidence at the scene and probably the

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most intriguing evidence we saw and some

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of the police officers saw was how the

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animals responded when these creatures

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were nearby that's something that nobody

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could fabricate and it was most common

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with dogs when these creatures were the

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distance the dogs would carry on embark

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and go crazy but when these things got

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in the very close range of how these

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dogs even the most vicious dog they were

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just like paralyzed they wouldn't bark

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they would shake they would shiver they

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wouldn't respond they would hide

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wherever they could and it was a very

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very interesting thing to see and horses

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on cattle and even indications of young

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children and babies in the home who are

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extremely upset when this activity was

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going on outside of course had no way of

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knowing what's happening so that was

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very intriguing as well but as these

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events are unfolding we begin to get

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reports that are much stranger and again

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needs to come in from widespread areas

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from individuals mainly calling the

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police department's initially or very

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frightened people and we had incidents

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where UFOs and Bigfoot were seen

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together at the same time in place or

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you'd have a UFO sighting and within a

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short time later to have a Bigfoot

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sighting or vice versa and there were

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lots of events or very very exciting but

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one of the first ones was September 27th

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1973 north of Pittsburgh where two young

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women were outside in a rural air

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waiting for a friend and here

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this large hairy Bigfoot creature

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covered with white air occasionally here

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about these ones with white hair running

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across the field into the woods but then

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one of its Hantu had a small spherical

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globe of luminous light the arena told

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the father of one of the girls who owned

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the property he went down on the woods

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and while he's down there this object

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comes across the sky projects his beam a

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light down into the woods well we

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thought that was a fascinating case

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but then the case you refer to was

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probably the case had really changed my

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belief structure and many of my

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investigators as to what we're dealing

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with and this was October 25th 1973 up

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in Fayette County and Fayette County

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you'll probably yours to mention this

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today on the show quite a bit Fayette

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County is one of the counties here in

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southwest PA which borders along the

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Chestnut Ridge and the chestnut ridge

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runs from Preston County West Virginia

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through West Warren Fenton Indiana

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County and that is probably one of the

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hottest areas the United States for

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repeat year after year Bigfoot sightings

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and all kind of other strange phenomena

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from UFOs to other cryptids all kind of

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weird events and that's been going on

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historically for many many years but on

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that particular day was about 10:30 that

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night when I got a phone call from a

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state trooper from the Union town State

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Police barracks ooh it just can't come

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back from investigating this incident

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and he himself sounds a little shook up

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and he said he thought there was a good

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chance that something may still be up in

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the pasture with this event occurred

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what the event was this was a multiple

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witness UFO landing with two Bigfoot

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creatures in the field at the same time

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this is all the phenomena together Stan

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Gordon where we have the UFO sighting we

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have the Bigfoot and we have so much

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more we'll continue the coverage of the

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older sightings but also as we progress

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I'm going to ask Stan as we'll Chris

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about current cases the most fascinating

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of the current cases in 2012 and whether

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we've seen any activity yet in the early

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part of 2013 we have Stan Gordon joining

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gene and Kris that means you're in the

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gene and Chris you're in the parent cast

620
00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:16,159
with Stan Gordon we explore the raft of

621
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:17,980
paranormal events occurring in

622
00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:19,850
Pennsylvania been a while since I've

623
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been to Pennsylvania and therefore I'm

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missing out on all the good stuff so we

625
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have a case here where we see a UFO we

626
00:27:31,060 --> 00:27:29,090
also see reports a Bigfoot how do we

627
00:27:32,889 --> 00:27:31,070
connect the two well here's the story

628
00:27:34,419 --> 00:27:32,899
this is the general part of the story

629
00:27:35,950 --> 00:27:34,429
there's a lot more that we won't even

630
00:27:38,169 --> 00:27:35,960
have time to get into but about nine

631
00:27:40,750 --> 00:27:38,179
o'clock that night in a small rural

632
00:27:43,659 --> 00:27:40,760
farming community there's about 15

633
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:43,669
people that observe this object it's a

634
00:27:47,919 --> 00:27:45,890
red sphere about as big as a barn spent

635
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:47,929
a hundred feet off the ground moving

636
00:27:52,269 --> 00:27:49,970
slowly down towards this pasture the

637
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story focuses on the farmers on the

638
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former owned the the property his son

639
00:27:59,860 --> 00:27:57,620
went out there to visit him and his wife

640
00:28:02,049 --> 00:27:59,870
for riding down the farm lane they see

641
00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:02,059
this object in the sky as others do and

642
00:28:06,399 --> 00:28:04,370
he moves off to a neighbor's that get a

643
00:28:07,870 --> 00:28:06,409
different viewpoint of this thing coming

644
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:07,880
down so they watch this thing it looks

645
00:28:12,909 --> 00:28:10,370
like it's landing in the pasture so he

646
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and two young neighbor boys decide

647
00:28:16,060 --> 00:28:13,970
they're going to go up to see what's

648
00:28:18,639 --> 00:28:16,070
going on up there so he stops over at

649
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:18,649
his dad's farm he grabs a 30.6 and he

650
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grabs a handful of ammunition which

651
00:28:25,570 --> 00:28:22,970
includes a couple tracers so as they're

652
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moving down towards the pasture in the

653
00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:28,490
distance dogs are going crazy they hear

654
00:28:32,769 --> 00:28:30,409
like a high-pitched sound and they're

655
00:28:34,659 --> 00:28:32,779
like a baby crying whining sound getting

656
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:34,669
a ladder as they get closer as they get

657
00:28:39,310 --> 00:28:37,370
up towards that general area to go up

658
00:28:40,750 --> 00:28:39,320
towards the pasture they they get out of

659
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the vehicle and the angle of the vehicle

660
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with the headlights on so they can see

661
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where they're going because of course

662
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the spark and they notice that the

663
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headlights look like they're being

664
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trained to power they have not seen that

665
00:28:54,129 --> 00:28:50,390
before of course that sudden we have

666
00:28:55,510 --> 00:28:54,139
heard a lots of the UFO cases and as

667
00:28:58,749 --> 00:28:55,520
they get up to the top of the pasture

668
00:29:01,419 --> 00:28:58,759
they're all in amazement because about

669
00:29:03,939 --> 00:29:01,429
250 feet away here's this object that

670
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appears to be on the ground or right

671
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above it and this thing now is not a

672
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complete sphere it's like a hemisphere

673
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like a half a sphere flat bottom down

674
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like a big white dome that's

675
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illuminating the whole area maybe a

676
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hundred feet or more in diameter it's

677
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making this high-pitched sound the whole

678
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area is luminous and glowing they just

679
00:29:23,619 --> 00:29:22,399
can't believe what they're saying so

680
00:29:24,939 --> 00:29:23,629
they're studying this thing and they're

681
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talking among themselves like kind of

682
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here what what is this why is it here

683
00:29:33,009 --> 00:29:30,259
and then their eyes are drawn to a fence

684
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line a barbed wire fence about 75 feet

685
00:29:38,109 --> 00:29:35,690
away and along that fence they notice

686
00:29:41,049 --> 00:29:38,119
these 2 tall figures one behind the

687
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other slowly moving towards them and of

688
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course being out in Pennsylvania the

689
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first fight is they got to be bare what

690
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else could they be because of a lot of

691
00:29:50,379 --> 00:29:48,109
hair on these things and then you soon

692
00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:50,389
realize that jeez that fence post six

693
00:29:54,309 --> 00:29:52,609
feet tall the ones got the least eight

694
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foot tall the others on seven foot tall

695
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the biggest ones in the front

696
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the other ones falling right behind it

697
00:30:02,529 --> 00:29:59,899
and they're moving one at a time along

698
00:30:04,779 --> 00:30:02,539
the fence line they're going post by

699
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post and these things are very tall

700
00:30:09,579 --> 00:30:07,429
cover long dark matted hair they have

701
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arms hanging down almost to the ground

702
00:30:13,869 --> 00:30:11,659
they have glowing green eyes and are

703
00:30:15,699 --> 00:30:13,879
making this whining crying sound well

704
00:30:17,499 --> 00:30:15,709
they're moving again towards them and

705
00:30:20,229 --> 00:30:17,509
the one boy starts yelling animus shoot

706
00:30:22,479 --> 00:30:20,239
him shoot him so the guy finally fires

707
00:30:24,879 --> 00:30:22,489
his first shot which is a tracer net

708
00:30:27,069 --> 00:30:24,889
traces getting that piston flash of

709
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:27,079
light he fires the second round which is

710
00:30:32,349 --> 00:30:29,690
the second tracer and as he fires that

711
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:32,359
second tracer that largest of the two

712
00:30:37,059 --> 00:30:34,809
creatures makes his a loud whining cry

713
00:30:40,479 --> 00:30:37,069
reaches out as though to grab that

714
00:30:42,909 --> 00:30:40,489
tracer and the moment it does that that

715
00:30:45,699 --> 00:30:42,919
object in the field suddenly disappears

716
00:30:48,969 --> 00:30:45,709
vanishes it's it it's gone there's no

717
00:30:51,849 --> 00:30:48,979
more sound the glowing is all gone it

718
00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:51,859
disappears so the creatures turn around

719
00:30:55,989 --> 00:30:53,569
at that point we'll always start walking

720
00:30:58,089 --> 00:30:55,999
back towards the opposite side of the

721
00:30:59,889 --> 00:30:58,099
woods where they came from and the one

722
00:31:02,529 --> 00:30:59,899
kids runs and runs out of the field he's

723
00:31:04,329 --> 00:31:02,539
so shook up and he finally he fired some

724
00:31:05,889 --> 00:31:04,339
live ammo at these creatures and the

725
00:31:07,959 --> 00:31:05,899
guy's been hunting for years and he said

726
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:07,969
I remember how he told me how at least

727
00:31:11,340 --> 00:31:09,769
the largest of the creatures turn round

728
00:31:13,140 --> 00:31:11,350
with a steering right Adal

729
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:13,150
going green eyes and shooting into him

730
00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:15,130
and he said he knows he hit that thing

731
00:31:20,130 --> 00:31:17,470
but he said there was no apparent injury

732
00:31:23,010 --> 00:31:20,140
to either one and they just kept walking

733
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:23,020
away from them so they finally ran out

734
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:24,970
of there and a guy went back to the

735
00:31:27,419 --> 00:31:26,049
house and told the family what happened

736
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:27,429
they took him to a neighbor's and they

737
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:29,200
called the State Police and then about

738
00:31:35,159 --> 00:31:30,850
45 minutes later when their trooper

739
00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:35,169
arrives he talks to the the witness the

740
00:31:38,909 --> 00:31:36,640
witness tells him about it and the guy

741
00:31:40,350 --> 00:31:38,919
just says you know forget about it

742
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:40,360
together think I'm crazy and a trooper

743
00:31:44,730 --> 00:31:42,370
said well we did get a report of two

744
00:31:46,260 --> 00:31:44,740
similar creatures last night so we have

745
00:31:48,450 --> 00:31:46,270
to go investigate so they go up in the

746
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:48,460
troop car and what I'm told is the

747
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:51,010
trooper said that area where the object

748
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:52,480
had been on the ground or right above it

749
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:54,850
was self luminous and glowing but a

750
00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:56,890
hundred feet or more in diameter the

751
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:58,570
animals wouldn't go anywhere near it he

752
00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:01,120
tried his flashlight beam into him he

753
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,320
could barely see the beam from the

754
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:04,240
brightness he said if he had a newspaper

755
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:06,010
he could have sat down within it and

756
00:32:10,049 --> 00:32:07,330
read the newspaper for the light coming

757
00:32:12,419 --> 00:32:10,059
off of it so the story goes on and on

758
00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:12,429
they end up leaving the area they go

759
00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:13,840
back to the State Police barracks at

760
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:15,760
that point but the trooper and the

761
00:32:19,380 --> 00:32:17,200
witness are taking the two separate

762
00:32:21,570 --> 00:32:19,390
rooms and separately interviewed and

763
00:32:23,370 --> 00:32:21,580
after that I was contacted and we've got

764
00:32:24,690 --> 00:32:23,380
our team up there it was already late at

765
00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:24,700
night but we got our team together

766
00:32:28,980 --> 00:32:26,830
checked our equipment out got up to the

767
00:32:30,899 --> 00:32:28,990
area it was early morning hours by the

768
00:32:33,270 --> 00:32:30,909
time we got there the area was no longer

769
00:32:35,340 --> 00:32:33,280
glowing the radiation levels were normal

770
00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:35,350
the animal still wouldn't go anywhere

771
00:32:39,390 --> 00:32:37,929
near it and then the story gets stranger

772
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:39,400
and stranger and we could go on forever

773
00:32:45,210 --> 00:32:42,250
but that's why I catalogued that whole

774
00:32:47,490 --> 00:32:45,220
report in my salinization book and very

775
00:32:49,740 --> 00:32:47,500
intriguing the late doctor Berthold

776
00:32:51,390 --> 00:32:49,750
Schwarz who was a famous psychiatrist he

777
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:51,400
was in New Jersey at the time he came up

778
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:53,650
here and spent a week investigating the

779
00:32:57,090 --> 00:32:55,090
case and interviewing all the people

780
00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:57,100
involved in went away convinced that

781
00:33:00,390 --> 00:32:58,480
these people all telling the truth the

782
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:00,400
best of their knowledge and there was

783
00:33:05,220 --> 00:33:03,850
just one of many cases that began to

784
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:05,230
make us wonder exactly what we're

785
00:33:08,850 --> 00:33:07,120
dealing with and of course after that

786
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:08,860
series of event and the many years since

787
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:11,289
because I've investigated hundreds of

788
00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:12,970
Bigfoot cases in Pennsylvania over the

789
00:33:16,980 --> 00:33:14,710
years like the skeptics

790
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:16,990
I have to ask the question if these

791
00:33:20,789 --> 00:33:18,880
things are real and I'm convinced these

792
00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:20,799
people see these things why don't we

793
00:33:24,299 --> 00:33:22,240
have more physical evidence why do we

794
00:33:25,049 --> 00:33:24,309
have any bodies by now it does not make

795
00:33:27,090 --> 00:33:25,059
any sense

796
00:33:30,570 --> 00:33:27,100
and then when you look back at some of

797
00:33:32,669 --> 00:33:30,580
the cases that we had in 73 in the 74

798
00:33:33,869 --> 00:33:32,679
and there's and there's one fascinating

799
00:33:35,190 --> 00:33:33,879
case and I don't know if we ever talked

800
00:33:37,619 --> 00:33:35,200
about before but I should tell you about

801
00:33:38,820 --> 00:33:37,629
it it gave us the clue as to why we may

802
00:33:40,980 --> 00:33:38,830
not have any bodies of these creatures

803
00:33:43,950 --> 00:33:40,990
maybe you should tell our listeners

804
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:43,960
again about this because if you discuss

805
00:33:48,210 --> 00:33:46,210
the sea or to go it's not as if they're

806
00:33:50,129 --> 00:33:48,220
going to go back to the episode okay

807
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:50,139
well there are other incidents along

808
00:33:54,029 --> 00:33:51,970
this line one of the things that we

809
00:33:56,430 --> 00:33:54,039
found in some of the investigations that

810
00:33:58,259 --> 00:33:56,440
our investigators would be out there and

811
00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:58,269
we'd be following a series of footprints

812
00:34:01,859 --> 00:34:00,159
that just suddenly stopped and vanished

813
00:34:04,139 --> 00:34:01,869
the ground conditions were suitable

814
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:04,149
there should have been more tracks in

815
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:05,769
some cases it seemed like the tracks

816
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:07,090
that suddenly came out of nowhere

817
00:34:11,309 --> 00:34:09,609
started than swaps otherwise things were

818
00:34:13,319 --> 00:34:11,319
going on like one man had called us and

819
00:34:15,210 --> 00:34:13,329
told us he had a relatively new car he

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was riding down this road all of a

821
00:34:18,899 --> 00:34:16,810
sudden this big hairy creature ran out

822
00:34:20,010 --> 00:34:18,909
in front of his car and as it did his

823
00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:20,020
murder began to sputter

824
00:34:24,809 --> 00:34:22,780
and there's a lot of weird strange cases

825
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:24,819
what you don't hear about very often but

826
00:34:31,470 --> 00:34:28,810
February 6 1974 it's a very interesting

827
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:31,480
case I was on the scene early the next

828
00:34:35,490 --> 00:34:34,000
morning because those who are listening

829
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if you're living at the time you

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remember that date in that time period

831
00:34:41,369 --> 00:34:39,879
because it was gas rationing going on it

832
00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:41,379
so I couldn't get gasoline next morning

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00:34:48,210 --> 00:34:43,990
oh do I remember that you'd have to buy

834
00:34:50,129 --> 00:34:48,220
gas on every other day you get to the

835
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gas station and that was living in a

836
00:34:54,450 --> 00:34:52,000
city at that time Coatesville

837
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Pennsylvania you ever had what two gas

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00:35:00,030 --> 00:34:57,129
stations or something so you know you

839
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:00,040
had to spend three or four hours yeah so

840
00:35:04,020 --> 00:35:01,930
not only that the reason there was the

841
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gas strike was because we having there

842
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was a nationwide trucker strike going on

843
00:35:09,870 --> 00:35:08,260
so we're shooting was going on was a lot

844
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of violence regardless across the

845
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country so in Pennsylvania the National

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Guard were patrolling with the state

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police so in this case both the National

848
00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:19,329
Garden State Police responded to this

849
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:21,250
incident and again I couldn't get up to

850
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:22,480
the next morning because I had no way to

851
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get gas so anyhow it was very

852
00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:26,859
interesting too because the police the

853
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State Police took the case very very

854
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seriously what happened was they receive

855
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report of an object maybe a spaceship or

856
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something over the area and these

857
00:35:44,350 --> 00:35:41,540
hairy creatures in the area at the same

858
00:35:46,090 --> 00:35:44,360
time but here's what we find out here's

859
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this woman who's lived in the mountains

860
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all her life she has a nice little cabin

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home deep in the mountains and she was

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sitting inside watching TV and

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everything is normal and all of a sudden

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she hears this commotion on her porch

865
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and she had a little pile of garbage I

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think like pop cans or whatever over in

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the corner

868
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something was rattling the cans and

869
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:06,500
anyhow her thought was well there had

870
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been an attack of wild dogs have been

871
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going through there on occasion recently

872
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she figured these dogs were probably

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back so she said to herself I think I'll

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grab my shotgun and I'll fire over their

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heads and scare the dogs away before we

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find out what happens when she tried to

877
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scare the dogs away doesn't sound like

878
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it was quite what she expected by the

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way when I say this I live in a

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neighborhood where we have six dogs on

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one side and we have five dogs on the

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that's Infowars team.com hi this is Don

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Ecker and you are tuned into the para

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cast let me tell you what you're gonna

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hear stuff here that you probably won't

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hear anywhere else here that George

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Noory

992
00:41:19,470 --> 00:41:17,529
with gene and Chris on the para cast and

993
00:41:21,660 --> 00:41:19,480
Gordon talking about paranormal events

994
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:21,670
in Pennsylvania and once we get past the

995
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:23,650
older cases I want to push him towards

996
00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:25,210
the newer cases but let's talk about

997
00:41:29,579 --> 00:41:27,730
this one so she takes out her shotgun to

998
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scare away the dogs that are bothering

999
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her but it wasn't quite what she

1000
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expected so she loads the one chamber of

1001
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her shotgun she walks over to the wall

1002
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to turn on the switch it turns on light

1003
00:41:44,009 --> 00:41:41,769
out turns a life on the porch so she

1004
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switches on the light she opens up the

1005
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:47,380
door she walks outside there's no dogs

1006
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:49,599
they're right in front of her a few feet

1007
00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:51,760
away here's this huge hairy creature

1008
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with his arm straight up over its head I

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remember many times doing interviews at

1010
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her and she this woman never ever

1011
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mentioned the term Bigfoot she said it

1012
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was a great big hairy ape and so she

1013
00:42:07,620 --> 00:42:05,140
sees this here Z animal in front of her

1014
00:42:09,630 --> 00:42:07,630
what does she do James her shotgun and

1015
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:09,640
she fires right into it she said there

1016
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:11,890
was this bright flash of light like a

1017
00:42:15,420 --> 00:42:13,690
strobe on a camera she that's the best

1018
00:42:18,029 --> 00:42:15,430
way to explain it and it disappeared

1019
00:42:20,490 --> 00:42:18,039
right in front of her so anyhow her her

1020
00:42:21,779 --> 00:42:20,500
in-laws lived 100 feet away and they of

1021
00:42:23,099 --> 00:42:21,789
course they hear the gunshot and they

1022
00:42:24,539 --> 00:42:23,109
call her on the phone and ask her what

1023
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:24,549
happened and she's explaining it to him

1024
00:42:28,259 --> 00:42:26,650
the son of the law decides he's going to

1025
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go up to see what's going on so he grabs

1026
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his 45 his pistol and he begins to make

1027
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his way up towards her cabin and he and

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he described being surrounded by four or

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five hairy people with eyes like holes a

1030
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fire and he starts shooting at him and

1031
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runs into the house and at the same time

1032
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:47,019
there's this large object with different

1033
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colored lights on say something a big

1034
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Christmas ornament hovering over the

1035
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woods at the same time they call the

1036
00:42:55,470 --> 00:42:52,299
State Police

1037
00:42:57,329 --> 00:42:55,480
and as I mentioned during that period

1038
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the State Police and some National

1039
00:43:00,720 --> 00:42:58,660
Guardsmen came up to that scene that

1040
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night I got there early the next morning

1041
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and got the interview the family and

1042
00:43:08,220 --> 00:43:06,190
people involved we met with an animal

1043
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protector officer from that County and

1044
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we were searching the area for other

1045
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evidence and we're out in the middle of

1046
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the woods and we found right in line

1047
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with the porch we found that DB pattern

1048
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in a tree out in the woods very

1049
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:19,540
interesting case I talked to the the

1050
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primary state trooper who was the main

1051
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investigating officer and he said I

1052
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don't know what was going on out there

1053
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but he said something really weird was

1054
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going on because he's I had never seen

1055
00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:32,230
like this before because these people

1056
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had lots of animals a domestic farm

1057
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animals horses and cattle and cats in

1058
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the house and a lot and lots of dogs and

1059
00:43:45,390 --> 00:43:43,690
he said it was this unbelievable he said

1060
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when he got on the scene he said in

1061
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particular it was very up you could see

1062
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it with the dogs

1063
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he said these dogs was not respond at

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all

1065
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he said they wouldn't bark they wouldn't

1066
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move he said they were just like

1067
00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:58,840
completely frightened paralyzed he said

1068
00:44:02,370 --> 00:44:00,640
one of those dogs and I think it was an

1069
00:44:04,740 --> 00:44:02,380
Eskimo spits I can't be plausible was a

1070
00:44:07,650 --> 00:44:04,750
big dog was in a cage and he tried to

1071
00:44:09,570 --> 00:44:07,660
pull that dog out and that dog wouldn't

1072
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:09,580
move I mean it should have ripped his

1073
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:12,130
arm off and that dog would not respond

1074
00:44:17,010 --> 00:44:14,530
whatsoever that I was a pretty smart

1075
00:44:18,690 --> 00:44:17,020
creature wasn't it and the next morning

1076
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they're all back to normal

1077
00:44:22,350 --> 00:44:20,110
everything's normal when I got there

1078
00:44:25,710 --> 00:44:22,360
that's an interesting interesting case

1079
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:25,720
and that wasn't the only case we had a

1080
00:44:29,970 --> 00:44:27,520
people shooting these things and

1081
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:29,980
allegedly disappearing and we had one

1082
00:44:34,020 --> 00:44:32,530
case where up in the area where there

1083
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:34,030
have been other sightings by different

1084
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:36,730
people this thing at times capable

1085
00:44:41,070 --> 00:44:38,170
reported then they couldn't see the

1086
00:44:43,590 --> 00:44:41,080
entire body only parts of the four times

1087
00:44:46,410 --> 00:44:43,600
be visible so just a lot of weird stuff

1088
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:46,420
was going on and I and again I have to

1089
00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:49,210
stress most UFO incidents has nothing to

1090
00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:51,040
do with Bigfoot and most Bigfoot

1091
00:44:55,980 --> 00:44:52,630
encounters have nothing to do with UFOs

1092
00:44:58,590 --> 00:44:55,990
however there is a small percentage of

1093
00:45:01,110 --> 00:44:58,600
cases that are well documented that seem

1094
00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:01,120
to show some kind of relationship what

1095
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:02,310
get there's anything directly

1096
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:04,330
relationship I don't know I don't have

1097
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:06,250
the answers but I can tell you and you

1098
00:45:10,650 --> 00:45:08,890
can fellas know this for years and years

1099
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,660
and years there's been discussion about

1100
00:45:14,010 --> 00:45:12,160
these topics I started running about

1101
00:45:16,260 --> 00:45:14,020
this back in the 70s after these events

1102
00:45:17,910 --> 00:45:16,270
you see it more and more discussion

1103
00:45:19,650 --> 00:45:17,920
about this more recent years because

1104
00:45:21,539 --> 00:45:19,660
there seems to be more open

1105
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:21,549
- now especially for the Bigfoot

1106
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:23,890
community ask you more more questions

1107
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:25,690
like myself like why don't we have any

1108
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:28,000
bodies and could there be more to the

1109
00:45:31,740 --> 00:45:29,770
subject now than we realized before

1110
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:31,750
which is what I've been saying for years

1111
00:45:35,339 --> 00:45:33,730
you know I wanted this mention one thing

1112
00:45:36,990 --> 00:45:35,349
here which I'm noticing you have been

1113
00:45:40,770 --> 00:45:37,000
active with these organizations since

1114
00:45:43,770 --> 00:45:40,780
the 60s do you find it difficult at all

1115
00:45:44,849 --> 00:45:43,780
or more difficult today to get people to

1116
00:45:46,829 --> 00:45:44,859
help you with investigations

1117
00:45:49,049 --> 00:45:46,839
particularly scientists and police

1118
00:45:51,690 --> 00:45:49,059
officers because it sounds like back in

1119
00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:51,700
the 60s and 70s it was no problem you

1120
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:53,049
were able to get people to help you

1121
00:45:57,900 --> 00:45:55,210
without going through red tape I could

1122
00:46:00,120 --> 00:45:57,910
even back in those days I mean back in

1123
00:46:02,279 --> 00:46:00,130
those days when we really had the high

1124
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:02,289
amounts of ridicule publicly it's not as

1125
00:46:06,089 --> 00:46:04,210
bad today because of all the TV shows

1126
00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:06,099
and all the coverage and more and more

1127
00:46:11,299 --> 00:46:07,839
people more open wider more interested

1128
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:11,309
but I can tell you you know back in the

1129
00:46:16,109 --> 00:46:13,930
sixties and seventies dr. Hynek used to

1130
00:46:17,609 --> 00:46:16,119
talk about the invisible college and and

1131
00:46:18,690 --> 00:46:17,619
basically what it is referring to is

1132
00:46:20,579 --> 00:46:18,700
that there were a lot of people in the

1133
00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:20,589
scientific community that we're looking

1134
00:46:24,569 --> 00:46:22,329
into these phenomena but they were doing

1135
00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:24,579
anonymously because their positions well

1136
00:46:29,579 --> 00:46:26,680
I can tell you in my early research

1137
00:46:32,370 --> 00:46:29,589
groups I had many of the top people from

1138
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:32,380
Gulf research Westinghouse Alcoa from

1139
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:34,510
universe in colleges in Pennsylvania and

1140
00:46:38,609 --> 00:46:37,210
a lot of these I'd say most of the

1141
00:46:41,609 --> 00:46:38,619
people working they did it anonymously

1142
00:46:43,049 --> 00:46:41,619
because their positions now I have my

1143
00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:43,059
research groups under more of course I

1144
00:46:49,470 --> 00:46:46,510
was doing that from the 70s it's in 1993

1145
00:46:50,970 --> 00:46:49,480
I was basically operating two groups out

1146
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:50,980
of my own pocket plus working full-time

1147
00:46:54,839 --> 00:46:53,680
and having a family and this has got too

1148
00:46:57,690 --> 00:46:54,849
much so I've been working as an

1149
00:46:59,250 --> 00:46:57,700
independent researcher since 1993 and I

1150
00:47:00,839 --> 00:46:59,260
still take calls from the public and get

1151
00:47:03,089 --> 00:47:00,849
a lot of emails and reports come here

1152
00:47:06,809 --> 00:47:03,099
constantly so I don't have my groups

1153
00:47:10,289 --> 00:47:06,819
anymore however I still do have access

1154
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:10,299
to various research people who again are

1155
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:11,890
working with me and many of these people

1156
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:14,890
working me for years and so we do it but

1157
00:47:19,470 --> 00:47:17,170
a lot I'm doing anonymously but it

1158
00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:19,480
doesn't look today like you had the

1159
00:47:26,609 --> 00:47:23,200
Scientific Interest nationwide that you

1160
00:47:28,650 --> 00:47:26,619
did back in the 60s the 60s or 70s 80s

1161
00:47:30,809 --> 00:47:28,660
I'm gonna ask you a hard question here

1162
00:47:33,019 --> 00:47:30,819
Stan real hard question you've been

1163
00:47:35,779 --> 00:47:33,029
doing this since the 50s

1164
00:47:37,999 --> 00:47:35,789
very heavily involved in the 60s through

1165
00:47:39,380 --> 00:47:38,009
today you're still very active in

1166
00:47:42,019 --> 00:47:39,390
research even though you're doing it as

1167
00:47:44,449 --> 00:47:42,029
an independent person what have we

1168
00:47:48,799 --> 00:47:44,459
learned through all those decades about

1169
00:47:50,809 --> 00:47:48,809
UFOs and about Bigfoot and about any of

1170
00:47:55,130 --> 00:47:50,819
the other phenomena that you've explored

1171
00:47:58,429 --> 00:47:55,140
what progress have we made well I have

1172
00:48:00,349 --> 00:47:58,439
learned as a independent researcher and

1173
00:48:03,259 --> 00:48:00,359
what I've learned being involved in so

1174
00:48:06,829 --> 00:48:03,269
many aspects of cryptozoology and UFOs

1175
00:48:08,599 --> 00:48:06,839
is that the phenomena is much much more

1176
00:48:11,269 --> 00:48:08,609
complex than most people having the idea

1177
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:11,279
of I think the more I know about it

1178
00:48:15,409 --> 00:48:13,650
maybe the less we know and that sounds

1179
00:48:18,799 --> 00:48:15,419
funny we know a lot about the subject in

1180
00:48:20,329 --> 00:48:18,809
general but the more we look at it the

1181
00:48:22,429 --> 00:48:20,339
more cases we look at and looked at

1182
00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:22,439
different aspects of it I think the more

1183
00:48:26,779 --> 00:48:24,329
it indicates we're dealing with

1184
00:48:29,269 --> 00:48:26,789
something that is extremely interesting

1185
00:48:30,589 --> 00:48:29,279
extremely unusual and there's a lot of

1186
00:48:32,839 --> 00:48:30,599
things out there that science does not

1187
00:48:35,419 --> 00:48:32,849
have an explanation for well which are

1188
00:48:38,689 --> 00:48:35,429
the specific aspects that take it into a

1189
00:48:41,959 --> 00:48:38,699
higher level of strangeness than just ET

1190
00:48:43,789 --> 00:48:41,969
and some missing link well my feeling is

1191
00:48:45,169 --> 00:48:43,799
when you're dealing with the UFO

1192
00:48:48,859 --> 00:48:45,179
phenomena let's talk about that first

1193
00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:48,869
that there is no easy one

1194
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:51,359
origin for the unexplained category of

1195
00:48:54,289 --> 00:48:53,249
the UFO phenomena that's my own feeling

1196
00:48:56,899 --> 00:48:54,299
that we're dealing with more than one

1197
00:48:58,399 --> 00:48:56,909
source and it's very complex I think

1198
00:49:00,189 --> 00:48:58,409
there's a small percentage of cases

1199
00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:00,199
could that could very well be

1200
00:49:05,149 --> 00:49:03,359
extraterrestrial I mean do i I from the

1201
00:49:06,919 --> 00:49:05,159
people I've talked to over the years and

1202
00:49:09,890 --> 00:49:06,929
different sources and people I've

1203
00:49:11,870 --> 00:49:09,900
discussed this with I think it's very

1204
00:49:13,069 --> 00:49:11,880
good possibility that our government

1205
00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:13,079
does have in their possession some

1206
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:15,599
crashed vehicles and probably some

1207
00:49:19,819 --> 00:49:17,729
actual bodies and you look at other

1208
00:49:22,789 --> 00:49:19,829
cases over the years of many people I've

1209
00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:22,799
interviewed people who have seen objects

1210
00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:25,380
that suddenly appear and disappear that

1211
00:49:30,909 --> 00:49:27,089
they physically change one form into

1212
00:49:35,689 --> 00:49:30,919
another incidents that seems to suggest

1213
00:49:37,099 --> 00:49:35,699
that maybe in certain cases certain

1214
00:49:38,899 --> 00:49:37,109
people have certain abilities they're

1215
00:49:41,409 --> 00:49:38,909
able to perceive certain phenomena and

1216
00:49:43,309 --> 00:49:41,419
others can't I've had cases where

1217
00:49:45,949 --> 00:49:43,319
there's been let's say a group of people

1218
00:49:46,210 --> 00:49:45,959
and only a few people in that group hit

1219
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:46,220
this

1220
00:49:49,089 --> 00:49:47,570
drive and see the object while the other

1221
00:49:50,740 --> 00:49:49,099
people couldn't see couldn't see it for

1222
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:50,750
example now that's one thing we've

1223
00:49:54,490 --> 00:49:52,130
talked about occasionally on the power

1224
00:49:56,380 --> 00:49:54,500
cast and I want to ask you more about

1225
00:50:00,370 --> 00:49:56,390
why you think the government has the

1226
00:50:03,310 --> 00:50:00,380
crash UFOs and ETS but that is why on

1227
00:50:05,740 --> 00:50:03,320
earth would something that supposedly is

1228
00:50:08,830 --> 00:50:05,750
real and physical be visible to some

1229
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:08,840
people but not to others yes and I think

1230
00:50:13,870 --> 00:50:11,690
again I started doing studies many years

1231
00:50:16,030 --> 00:50:13,880
ago and unfortunately with no funding

1232
00:50:18,670 --> 00:50:16,040
with huge amounts of reports come in

1233
00:50:21,010 --> 00:50:18,680
constantly over the years basically you

1234
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:21,020
know doing this is a full-time job but

1235
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:22,880
it wasn't because I had a full-time job

1236
00:50:26,650 --> 00:50:25,130
and paying for all this research out of

1237
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:26,660
my own pocket of all these groups and

1238
00:50:29,890 --> 00:50:28,490
all people involved over the years I was

1239
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:29,900
limited on what I could do in certain

1240
00:50:34,570 --> 00:50:32,210
areas but as I was looking to some of

1241
00:50:36,820 --> 00:50:34,580
the early alleged abduction cases and

1242
00:50:38,830 --> 00:50:36,830
looking to other cases we're as we're

1243
00:50:41,170 --> 00:50:38,840
interviewing people and we're being very

1244
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:41,180
careful with interviews and not leading

1245
00:50:44,410 --> 00:50:43,010
people not putting in suggestions of

1246
00:50:46,359 --> 00:50:44,420
people's mind so you have to be really

1247
00:50:48,820 --> 00:50:46,369
careful how you did interviews and ask

1248
00:50:51,370 --> 00:50:48,830
questions but you began to find that

1249
00:50:54,010 --> 00:50:51,380
some interesting things began to show up

1250
00:50:56,050 --> 00:50:54,020
you know in some cases I began to find I

1251
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:56,060
don't have enough data and never had

1252
00:50:59,740 --> 00:50:57,410
enough data because we have time to get

1253
00:51:01,120 --> 00:50:59,750
into it to see what percentages and you

1254
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:01,130
know how big of an area this was but

1255
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:03,050
when you Stern interview certain people

1256
00:51:07,329 --> 00:51:05,839
who had these experiences some with UFOs

1257
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:07,339
some with Bigfoot and sometimes you

1258
00:51:11,349 --> 00:51:09,530
began to find that some of these people

1259
00:51:14,170 --> 00:51:11,359
and their families had a long history of

1260
00:51:16,690 --> 00:51:14,180
not a UFO experiences but other

1261
00:51:18,010 --> 00:51:16,700
paranormal experiences and counters with

1262
00:51:21,490 --> 00:51:18,020
strange creatures throughout their lives

1263
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:21,500
so many of the alleged abduction people

1264
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:22,640
who are involved with some of the

1265
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:25,490
abduction claims most of their events

1266
00:51:28,329 --> 00:51:26,450
started when they were very young

1267
00:51:29,290 --> 00:51:28,339
children got a break at that point we'll

1268
00:51:31,150 --> 00:51:29,300
get to our next segment

1269
00:51:36,490 --> 00:51:31,160
we have Stan Gordon joining Jeanne and

1270
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1291
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1292
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1293
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1294
00:52:33,470 --> 00:52:31,829
when stating a central bank issuing the

1295
00:52:34,579 --> 00:52:33,480
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1296
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:34,589
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1297
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1298
00:52:39,229 --> 00:52:37,380
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1299
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:39,239
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1300
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1302
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1333
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:14,250
Steinberg so jess is the interest in

1334
00:54:20,270 --> 00:54:18,000
UFOs and other phenomena start when

1335
00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:20,280
you're very young you're talking Stan

1336
00:54:24,260 --> 00:54:22,319
Gordon about people whose experiences

1337
00:54:26,780 --> 00:54:24,270
started when they were young now is this

1338
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:26,790
related to abductions or what well this

1339
00:54:30,140 --> 00:54:28,530
is where you get sometimes it gets a

1340
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:30,150
little confusing because of all the

1341
00:54:34,339 --> 00:54:32,490
things began to come out and again I

1342
00:54:36,530 --> 00:54:34,349
can't get for percentages because we

1343
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:36,540
never were able to get into doing a

1344
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:38,400
really really detailed studies but we

1345
00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:40,530
found this was quite fascinating fact

1346
00:54:44,450 --> 00:54:42,510
many years ago when we started looking

1347
00:54:46,370 --> 00:54:44,460
into the backgrounds of people and

1348
00:54:48,890 --> 00:54:46,380
things the experiences their family and

1349
00:54:51,140 --> 00:54:48,900
their lives but we found that a number

1350
00:54:52,490 --> 00:54:51,150
of the people we interviewed why their

1351
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:52,500
experiences starting from the time they

1352
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:54,690
were very young over the course of many

1353
00:54:58,609 --> 00:54:56,400
many years not only did they have

1354
00:55:00,530 --> 00:54:58,619
alleged encounters with UFOs but

1355
00:55:02,750 --> 00:55:00,540
sometimes they had encounters with other

1356
00:55:05,450 --> 00:55:02,760
types of strange creatures and sometimes

1357
00:55:08,180 --> 00:55:05,460
it ran into generations of parents and

1358
00:55:10,220 --> 00:55:08,190
grandchildren and children and found it

1359
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:10,230
very very interesting I was just gonna

1360
00:55:14,660 --> 00:55:12,000
ask you think that there's some sort of

1361
00:55:18,289 --> 00:55:14,670
family allure the genetic component that

1362
00:55:21,349 --> 00:55:18,299
some some types of people or bloodline

1363
00:55:22,940 --> 00:55:21,359
people are more present I get about the

1364
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:22,950
subject you know there's so many and the

1365
00:55:27,170 --> 00:55:24,510
answered questions so many things we

1366
00:55:29,870 --> 00:55:27,180
don't have the answers for but the

1367
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:29,880
question is also a lot of these people

1368
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:32,970
over the years claimed to have had or in

1369
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:35,970
some cases after they had especially

1370
00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:38,400
with some certain UFO events they

1371
00:55:41,490 --> 00:55:40,079
claimed that they began to experience

1372
00:55:44,010 --> 00:55:41,500
for his type of psyche

1373
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:44,020
phenomena or said the ESP experiences

1374
00:55:47,580 --> 00:55:45,970
which in some cases people claimed they

1375
00:55:50,220 --> 00:55:47,590
didn't have any of these experiences

1376
00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:50,230
prior to that one has to wonder is there

1377
00:55:53,370 --> 00:55:51,910
certain abilities to some of these

1378
00:55:55,290 --> 00:55:53,380
people have that the phenomena is

1379
00:55:57,300 --> 00:55:55,300
attracted to them or they're able to

1380
00:55:59,070 --> 00:55:57,310
perceive certain things that other

1381
00:56:00,810 --> 00:55:59,080
people don't have the abilities that to

1382
00:56:03,210 --> 00:56:00,820
do there there's so many unanswered

1383
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:03,220
questions here your description of

1384
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:05,410
groups of people and some of those

1385
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:07,930
people being able to perceive on an you

1386
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:10,570
know something unusual or some sort of

1387
00:56:15,330 --> 00:56:13,210
phenomenal event and other people not

1388
00:56:17,610 --> 00:56:15,340
being able to see it I I've actually

1389
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:17,620
went into that as well do you think that

1390
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:19,930
some of us have a maybe a special pair

1391
00:56:25,020 --> 00:56:22,810
of glasses on or or some people maybe

1392
00:56:27,390 --> 00:56:25,030
when they when they're faced with

1393
00:56:29,700 --> 00:56:27,400
something so perturbing and inexplicable

1394
00:56:32,340 --> 00:56:29,710
maybe something shuts off and they're in

1395
00:56:35,340 --> 00:56:32,350
there the cognitive function and they

1396
00:56:38,340 --> 00:56:35,350
they just almost will themselves not to

1397
00:56:40,830 --> 00:56:38,350
see things well it seems like there is

1398
00:56:42,930 --> 00:56:40,840
that possibility and you know what a

1399
00:56:44,940 --> 00:56:42,940
basin asan has affected a lot of these

1400
00:56:46,590 --> 00:56:44,950
witnesses I kept track with for years

1401
00:56:48,330 --> 00:56:46,600
and years after some of their initial

1402
00:56:50,070 --> 00:56:48,340
experiences I mean there's some people

1403
00:56:53,460 --> 00:56:50,080
even today I'm still in touch with from

1404
00:56:55,650 --> 00:56:53,470
30-some years ago and it's just amazing

1405
00:56:58,380 --> 00:56:55,660
the incidence of half a ninth of em but

1406
00:57:00,360 --> 00:56:58,390
to their children even grandchildren and

1407
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:00,370
a lot of these kids I mean they didn't

1408
00:57:03,900 --> 00:57:01,810
share these experiences or children they

1409
00:57:05,580 --> 00:57:03,910
just began to tell their parents about

1410
00:57:07,590 --> 00:57:05,590
the strange things began to happen with

1411
00:57:10,380 --> 00:57:07,600
them over the years is there some type

1412
00:57:12,030 --> 00:57:10,390
of ESP phenomena involved here you know

1413
00:57:15,150 --> 00:57:12,040
certain are certain people able to

1414
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:15,160
perceive certain phenomena it's as a

1415
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:16,690
phenomena interact with certain people

1416
00:57:20,970 --> 00:57:18,850
because they're able to they're more

1417
00:57:23,490 --> 00:57:20,980
sensitive to certain phenomena going on

1418
00:57:25,110 --> 00:57:23,500
again I don't have the answers but there

1419
00:57:26,940 --> 00:57:25,120
are so many things sort of interest we

1420
00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:26,950
have to look at well this is the whole

1421
00:57:33,090 --> 00:57:30,160
thing here which is how do you train

1422
00:57:35,700 --> 00:57:33,100
families were they may have children who

1423
00:57:37,590 --> 00:57:35,710
are having these experiences to get the

1424
00:57:40,050 --> 00:57:37,600
kids to open up because kids these days

1425
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:40,060
don't really open up as much to their

1426
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:42,010
parents as they used to there's too busy

1427
00:57:46,530 --> 00:57:44,410
with Facebook and Twitter and their

1428
00:57:48,030 --> 00:57:46,540
games well I didn't get calls from

1429
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:48,040
people on occasion I mean I had one

1430
00:57:53,310 --> 00:57:50,890
person contacting me probably a few

1431
00:57:55,590 --> 00:57:53,320
months ago and this person has had some

1432
00:57:58,560 --> 00:57:55,600
amazing events going back

1433
00:58:00,270 --> 00:57:58,570
oh geez probably late 60's 70's I've

1434
00:58:03,390 --> 00:58:00,280
been in touch with them over the years

1435
00:58:05,490 --> 00:58:03,400
on and off and I know this this past

1436
00:58:08,970 --> 00:58:05,500
year against one of her children and

1437
00:58:11,610 --> 00:58:08,980
contacted her and these events are so

1438
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:11,620
personal and they're so unusual that I

1439
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:13,090
guess a lot of these kids feel they have

1440
00:58:17,310 --> 00:58:14,970
to share and ask questions about it and

1441
00:58:19,020 --> 00:58:17,320
so it's something that you know I've

1442
00:58:20,010 --> 00:58:19,030
over the years I've seen this happen

1443
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:20,020
with different people and different

1444
00:58:24,990 --> 00:58:22,810
families and sometimes these kids wait

1445
00:58:26,430 --> 00:58:25,000
two years later before they even bring

1446
00:58:27,690 --> 00:58:26,440
it up because they're afraid to bring it

1447
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:27,700
up and they want people think they're

1448
00:58:30,620 --> 00:58:28,210
crazy

1449
00:58:33,420 --> 00:58:30,630
so but these things are out there and

1450
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:33,430
there's I think the more people they're

1451
00:58:37,260 --> 00:58:35,410
interviewed and the more you look at

1452
00:58:39,540 --> 00:58:37,270
these subjects from or you see there's a

1453
00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:39,550
lot of common factors I've got a quick

1454
00:58:45,350 --> 00:58:41,280
question here too that I wanted to ask

1455
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:45,360
before it seems to me that the activity

1456
00:58:50,700 --> 00:58:48,730
in Pennsylvania I mean it's widespread

1457
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:50,710
it's it's pretty much everywhere but

1458
00:58:55,470 --> 00:58:53,410
there do seem to be hotspot areas as you

1459
00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:55,480
mentioned Chestnut Ridge which is down

1460
00:59:01,530 --> 00:58:58,480
on the border what do you think makes

1461
00:59:03,870 --> 00:59:01,540
these particular spots more prevalent

1462
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:03,880
you know people to have more sighting

1463
00:59:09,570 --> 00:59:07,450
events and there seems to be a more more

1464
00:59:11,310 --> 00:59:09,580
intensive outbreak of these types of

1465
00:59:14,490 --> 00:59:11,320
events that seem to be centered around

1466
00:59:16,860 --> 00:59:14,500
particular location specific areas but

1467
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:16,870
have you given any thought to why that

1468
00:59:20,790 --> 00:59:19,210
might be we've tried to look into it I

1469
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:20,800
mean we looked at the geology of the

1470
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:23,890
areas by the history of the areas and I

1471
00:59:27,690 --> 00:59:25,690
mean like for through the Chestnut Ridge

1472
00:59:30,900 --> 00:59:27,700
there's an inactive earthquake fault but

1473
00:59:33,450 --> 00:59:30,910
nothing really going on out there and I

1474
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:33,460
don't know I just it's one of those area

1475
00:59:37,290 --> 00:59:35,290
and again it's not one specific area

1476
00:59:40,140 --> 00:59:37,300
that not writing just 100 miles long

1477
00:59:42,660 --> 00:59:40,150
the area is especially out in Derry

1478
00:59:44,220 --> 00:59:42,670
Township outside of Latrobe right along

1479
00:59:46,770 --> 00:59:44,230
the base of the ridge is an area where

1480
00:59:48,450 --> 00:59:46,780
there's been so many very intriguing

1481
00:59:50,490 --> 00:59:48,460
Bigfoot encounters over the years almost

1482
00:59:52,380 --> 00:59:50,500
almost you know and we still get reports

1483
00:59:54,660 --> 00:59:52,390
on those areas from different people and

1484
00:59:56,610 --> 00:59:54,670
out there in Fayette County a lot of

1485
00:59:59,190 --> 00:59:56,620
weird stuff going off in Fayette County

1486
01:00:01,170 --> 00:59:59,200
including last year a dragon sighting

1487
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:01,180
for a better term happen up in that area

1488
01:00:05,630 --> 01:00:03,130
same area where there's been a lot of

1489
01:00:08,610 --> 01:00:05,640
other Bigfoot activity going on so

1490
01:00:09,270 --> 01:00:08,620
there's a lot of strange things going on

1491
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:09,280
out there and

1492
01:00:13,260 --> 01:00:11,050
and Pennsylvania has always had a

1493
01:00:15,270 --> 01:00:13,270
history I mean from the Native Americans

1494
01:00:17,460 --> 01:00:15,280
and if you go back there are multitudes

1495
01:00:20,460 --> 01:00:17,470
of reports from the 1800s and newspapers

1496
01:00:23,790 --> 01:00:20,470
of strange events going on and right up

1497
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:23,800
to the present time and of course I was

1498
01:00:27,150 --> 01:00:25,450
probably one of the only people in the

1499
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:27,160
country that for years and years was

1500
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:29,200
actively investigating taking calls from

1501
01:00:32,850 --> 01:00:29,680
the public

1502
01:00:34,980 --> 01:00:32,860
since 1969 so there was a place in

1503
01:00:36,870 --> 01:00:34,990
Pennsylvania where people could invest

1504
01:00:38,490 --> 01:00:36,880
reporter case it would be investigated

1505
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:38,500
for many years and that's something most

1506
01:00:42,420 --> 01:00:40,240
states didn't have excuse me just and

1507
01:00:43,830 --> 01:00:42,430
before we go on it also need to be aware

1508
01:00:45,540 --> 01:00:43,840
when we get towards the end of a segment

1509
01:00:46,980 --> 01:00:45,550
I would have to break and I'm not being

1510
01:00:48,900 --> 01:00:46,990
rude I just have to do what I need to

1511
01:00:51,900 --> 01:00:48,910
ask a few questions okay first thing

1512
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:51,910
here back to what you dropped in very

1513
01:00:58,020 --> 01:00:55,050
quickly before and that is dragons

1514
01:01:01,290 --> 01:00:58,030
report about a dragon I mean I've just

1515
01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:01,300
been holding back here because you were

1516
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:03,520
just going on and on but you've got to

1517
01:01:06,570 --> 01:01:05,050
tell us about that we've only got a

1518
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:06,580
couple of minutes left for this segment

1519
01:01:10,170 --> 01:01:08,290
so maybe start here and then we'll

1520
01:01:12,690 --> 01:01:10,180
continue with our next segment Stan

1521
01:01:14,580 --> 01:01:12,700
okay well among the cryptozoological

1522
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:14,590
creatures and we get reports out of

1523
01:01:17,790 --> 01:01:16,330
Pennsylvania and there's quite a lot we

1524
01:01:19,980 --> 01:01:17,800
got a lot of reports that for better

1525
01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:19,990
term we call Thunderbird sightings and

1526
01:01:22,890 --> 01:01:21,310
I'm sure Christmas morning with that

1527
01:01:25,890 --> 01:01:22,900
we've got a lot of reports of these

1528
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:25,900
giant birds with NASA wingspans and some

1529
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:28,450
are just like huge birds but some are

1530
01:01:33,210 --> 01:01:30,880
described more like giant bats and other

1531
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:33,220
like prehistoric birds like terror dogs

1532
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:35,890
for example and this one is an

1533
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:37,450
interesting one I mean the witnesses

1534
01:01:42,060 --> 01:01:39,730
very it was very credible this was March

1535
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:42,070
18th of last year up in the southern

1536
01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:44,250
part of Fayette County way way up in the

1537
01:01:49,110 --> 01:01:46,720
mountainous area up there and the guys

1538
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:49,120
walking his dog around 11:45 that night

1539
01:01:53,940 --> 01:01:52,210
he's in the front yard and all of a

1540
01:01:56,310 --> 01:01:53,950
sudden he hears like his whooshing sound

1541
01:01:58,800 --> 01:01:56,320
coming from overhead so he looks up and

1542
01:02:01,050 --> 01:01:58,810
about 55 feet above him here's his large

1543
01:02:03,150 --> 01:02:01,060
creature he said for better term he said

1544
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:03,160
I look like a dragon and he said it

1545
01:02:07,170 --> 01:02:05,680
passed over a dustin gone light and got

1546
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:07,180
a really good look at this thing he said

1547
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:10,090
the body was about 22 feet long and he

1548
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:12,850
had a wingspan he estimated at about 18

1549
01:02:18,060 --> 01:02:15,970
feet wide and the body look shiny bring

1550
01:02:20,670 --> 01:02:18,070
almost reflect the body with no scales

1551
01:02:22,279 --> 01:02:20,680
and he said the color was kind of a puss

1552
01:02:24,589 --> 01:02:22,289
like brown red

1553
01:02:26,299 --> 01:02:24,599
or like an are born brown and at the tip

1554
01:02:28,279 --> 01:02:26,309
of the wings that appear to be cowlick

1555
01:02:29,929 --> 01:02:28,289
figures about three to four number the

1556
01:02:32,359 --> 01:02:29,939
arms of the wing structure could

1557
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:32,369
muscular the wings were quite thick and

1558
01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:34,650
not like skin and there appeared to be a

1559
01:02:38,329 --> 01:02:36,569
rear fin on both sides of its body and

1560
01:02:40,370 --> 01:02:38,339
the creature displayed an inner head

1561
01:02:42,140 --> 01:02:40,380
shaped tail the witness saw what

1562
01:02:45,169 --> 01:02:42,150
appeared to be two extended rear legs

1563
01:02:47,269 --> 01:02:45,179
and they had had a cone shape around the

1564
01:02:49,370 --> 01:02:47,279
head and it stopped flat on the base of

1565
01:02:51,589 --> 01:02:49,380
the neck but he said the hardest part of

1566
01:02:52,939 --> 01:02:51,599
the whole thing was in the area around

1567
01:02:55,069 --> 01:02:52,949
the mouth of the hive who was

1568
01:02:57,199 --> 01:02:55,079
illuminated with a very ominous orange

1569
01:02:58,880 --> 01:02:57,209
glow and as a creature flew over the

1570
01:03:00,739 --> 01:02:58,890
trees down the bottom of the orgasm

1571
01:03:03,109 --> 01:03:00,749
moved off in the distance he heard this

1572
01:03:05,989 --> 01:03:03,119
very deep throaty sound he said similar

1573
01:03:08,479 --> 01:03:05,999
to a foghorn on a boat so that's just

1574
01:03:10,159 --> 01:03:08,489
one of a number really weird cases came

1575
01:03:12,049 --> 01:03:10,169
to my attention last year we can talk

1576
01:03:14,359 --> 01:03:12,059
more about that I'd certainly want to do

1577
01:03:16,579 --> 01:03:14,369
that because we want to focus more in

1578
01:03:18,019 --> 01:03:16,589
the more recent cases and for a second

1579
01:03:20,179 --> 01:03:18,029
when you're talking about the conehead I

1580
01:03:21,529 --> 01:03:20,189
was thinking of oh the Coneheads from

1581
01:03:22,969 --> 01:03:21,539
Saturday Night Live but we're not

1582
01:03:24,679 --> 01:03:22,979
talking about that kind of shape and

1583
01:03:27,529 --> 01:03:24,689
that kind of cone but I just wanted to

1584
01:03:29,989 --> 01:03:27,539
drop in that we have Stan Gordon who has

1585
01:03:32,630 --> 01:03:29,999
been studying UFOs and other paranormal

1586
01:03:35,089 --> 01:03:32,640
phenomena in Pennsylvania for a number

1587
01:03:38,179 --> 01:03:35,099
of years he's collected a wealth of

1588
01:03:40,939 --> 01:03:38,189
strange unusual cases and some of course

1589
01:03:46,210 --> 01:03:40,949
happened this past year with Gene and

1590
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:48,580
[Music]

1591
01:03:52,820 --> 01:03:51,090
attack of the rock aids has been

1592
01:03:54,740 --> 01:03:52,830
well-received by critics and readers

1593
01:03:57,590 --> 01:03:54,750
alike it's a thrill a minute story

1594
01:03:59,930 --> 01:03:57,600
you'll never forget a former US military

1595
01:04:02,210 --> 01:03:59,940
intelligence officer is haunted by

1596
01:04:04,730 --> 01:04:02,220
intense dreams about a beautiful woman

1597
01:04:07,609 --> 01:04:04,740
pleading for his help after a terrible

1598
01:04:09,740 --> 01:04:07,619
battle in outer space but the dreams

1599
01:04:11,690 --> 01:04:09,750
turn out to be true and thrust him into

1600
01:04:14,330 --> 01:04:11,700
a telepathic love affair with a woman

1601
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:14,340
whose faraway planet is intent on

1602
01:04:19,580 --> 01:04:16,770
destroying the earth and now the

1603
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:19,590
gripping tale continues in the coming of

1604
01:04:24,350 --> 01:04:22,050
the protectors it's the second book of

1605
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:24,360
the Rocko is Trillo Jie a galaxy

1606
01:04:28,970 --> 01:04:26,250
spanning adventure that pits our hapless

1607
01:04:31,070 --> 01:04:28,980
heroes against powerful fanatical

1608
01:04:33,950 --> 01:04:31,080
enemies that threaten the lives of

1609
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:33,960
freedom loving beings everywhere attack

1610
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:36,450
of the rockets and the coming of the

1611
01:04:42,590 --> 01:04:39,330
protectors classic science fiction at

1612
01:04:47,330 --> 01:04:42,600
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1685
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to the para gasps with Jean and Kris in

1694
01:08:08,220 --> 01:08:06,280
the para cast we welcome back Stan

1695
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:08,230
Gordon we're exploring all those

1696
01:08:12,180 --> 01:08:09,850
incredible cases in and around

1697
01:08:14,310 --> 01:08:12,190
Pennsylvania all these years but before

1698
01:08:16,620 --> 01:08:14,320
we go on with the more recent cases

1699
01:08:18,570 --> 01:08:16,630
creature sightings and everything Stan

1700
01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:18,580
just very briefly do you find in your

1701
01:08:23,010 --> 01:08:20,710
investigation that Pennsylvania seems to

1702
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:23,020
attract more of the stuff than other

1703
01:08:27,390 --> 01:08:26,050
states I really can't say that again

1704
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:27,400
there's been a long history of these

1705
01:08:31,110 --> 01:08:29,770
things happening in Pennsylvania again

1706
01:08:33,420 --> 01:08:31,120
I'm probably one of the few people that

1707
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:33,430
are really actively investigating and

1708
01:08:37,350 --> 01:08:35,890
get reports on these events going on so

1709
01:08:39,810 --> 01:08:37,360
it's a place where people report to this

1710
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:39,820
they have for many many years and I

1711
01:08:43,950 --> 01:08:41,770
think a lot of people in this area of

1712
01:08:46,440 --> 01:08:43,960
the country who are aware what I'm doing

1713
01:08:48,030 --> 01:08:46,450
there they're more open to the

1714
01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:48,040
possibility of discussing this with

1715
01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:50,080
somebody because they know I'll keep

1716
01:08:53,250 --> 01:08:51,520
their names confidential that's what

1717
01:08:54,810 --> 01:08:53,260
they asked for and they just want to

1718
01:08:56,790 --> 01:08:54,820
share the information try to find out

1719
01:08:58,740 --> 01:08:56,800
like were they the only ones that

1720
01:09:00,330 --> 01:08:58,750
experienced this type of thing and you

1721
01:09:02,220 --> 01:09:00,340
know talking about the dragon report

1722
01:09:04,500 --> 01:09:02,230
it's very similar to some of the

1723
01:09:07,500 --> 01:09:04,510
sightings report I believe in Iowa Brown

1724
01:09:10,740 --> 01:09:07,510
2003 I believe it was in other areas so

1725
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:10,750
it's not a unique case now the reasons

1726
01:09:16,380 --> 01:09:13,810
taste is that you explored in 2012 what

1727
01:09:19,170 --> 01:09:16,390
level of media coverage did they receive

1728
01:09:21,090 --> 01:09:19,180
very little and mainly is because most

1729
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:21,100
people didn't want any publicity they

1730
01:09:26,790 --> 01:09:23,770
didn't go to the newspapers and I would

1731
01:09:29,910 --> 01:09:26,800
say 99% of the cases that people report

1732
01:09:31,380 --> 01:09:29,920
to me there's very little publicity on

1733
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:31,390
except like you know I might mention on

1734
01:09:34,860 --> 01:09:32,890
my website there's other things that

1735
01:09:37,890 --> 01:09:34,870
might be covered different places but

1736
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:37,900
the majority of reports you won't see in

1737
01:09:41,460 --> 01:09:39,970
the local newspapers around here as most

1738
01:09:44,010 --> 01:09:41,470
people don't call them newspapers about

1739
01:09:46,380 --> 01:09:44,020
it and besides which how many local

1740
01:09:49,710 --> 01:09:46,390
newspapers do they have left anymore

1741
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:49,720
you'd be surprised especially up in this

1742
01:09:54,540 --> 01:09:51,610
part of the state we still have a lot of

1743
01:09:56,490 --> 01:09:54,550
locals summer dailies summer week leaves

1744
01:09:57,780 --> 01:09:56,500
but there's still quite a lot of

1745
01:10:00,510 --> 01:09:57,790
newspapers still in this general area

1746
01:10:01,690 --> 01:10:00,520
and I can tell you why there's not a lot

1747
01:10:09,420 --> 01:10:01,700
of

1748
01:10:12,460 --> 01:10:09,430
over the years I have had very very good

1749
01:10:14,110 --> 01:10:12,470
coverage from the local newspapers who

1750
01:10:17,590 --> 01:10:14,120
have actually been very supportive my

1751
01:10:19,390 --> 01:10:17,600
investigations and research and so I

1752
01:10:20,950 --> 01:10:19,400
actually I've been very thankful over

1753
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:20,960
the years of the really good support

1754
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:22,880
that I've had generally from the media

1755
01:10:28,210 --> 01:10:25,570
in this area Chris I was gonna say that

1756
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:28,220
that indicates to me that these people

1757
01:10:32,980 --> 01:10:31,010
are having real experiences often times

1758
01:10:36,130 --> 01:10:32,990
the people that have some sort of need

1759
01:10:37,870 --> 01:10:36,140
for recognition or have some sort of

1760
01:10:40,060 --> 01:10:37,880
worthiness issues maybe in their life

1761
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:40,070
they're the ones that tend to to go

1762
01:10:44,860 --> 01:10:42,050
running to the local paper and and

1763
01:10:46,750 --> 01:10:44,870
touting their story and and when you see

1764
01:10:49,390 --> 01:10:46,760
people that that are willing to divulge

1765
01:10:51,700 --> 01:10:49,400
details of unusual experiences to

1766
01:10:54,460 --> 01:10:51,710
someone that they know and respect as a

1767
01:10:57,700 --> 01:10:54,470
researcher an investigator that to me as

1768
01:10:59,770 --> 01:10:57,710
legitimacy to their accounts and you

1769
01:11:02,680 --> 01:10:59,780
know I've always felt that on the East

1770
01:11:04,930 --> 01:11:02,690
Coast and there's no other state their

1771
01:11:06,580 --> 01:11:04,940
rivals Pennsylvania in terms of the kind

1772
01:11:08,650 --> 01:11:06,590
of data that's being that's being

1773
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:08,660
compiled because Stan you're the guy

1774
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:11,570
there stands the man and you need to

1775
01:11:18,850 --> 01:11:14,570
have a person like a Stan Gordon in a

1776
01:11:20,950 --> 01:11:18,860
particular area of your state or region

1777
01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:20,960
of the country in order to document this

1778
01:11:26,740 --> 01:11:24,110
stuff a lot of these types of incidences

1779
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:26,750
undoubtedly you know or just they're

1780
01:11:31,810 --> 01:11:29,090
blown away by the by the wisps of time

1781
01:11:33,220 --> 01:11:31,820
because the dad is not logged in and I

1782
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:33,230
really you know out of all the

1783
01:11:37,450 --> 01:11:35,330
investigators that I've come in contact

1784
01:11:40,150 --> 01:11:37,460
with over the years Stan you are the

1785
01:11:42,130 --> 01:11:40,160
most dogged in and dedicated out of

1786
01:11:44,530 --> 01:11:42,140
anybody out there and I really I mean

1787
01:11:47,590 --> 01:11:44,540
that I'm not just blowing smoke at you I

1788
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:47,600
really do admire and appreciate the

1789
01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:50,330
quality of work that you've done and I

1790
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:54,310
you know it would be great to to see a a

1791
01:11:58,930 --> 01:11:56,690
some sort of handbook from Stan Gordon

1792
01:12:01,330 --> 01:11:58,940
for aspiring investigators of do's and

1793
01:12:03,190 --> 01:12:01,340
dont's and rules of thumb and that sort

1794
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:03,200
of thing and it'd be great maybe if

1795
01:12:09,580 --> 01:12:06,290
several of us got together and and threw

1796
01:12:11,490 --> 01:12:09,590
some ideas around about how to properly

1797
01:12:16,170 --> 01:12:11,500
train people

1798
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:16,180
at a distance how to become a effective

1799
01:12:20,939 --> 01:12:18,730
networker research or an investigator I

1800
01:12:22,290 --> 01:12:20,949
don't know of anyone that has done the

1801
01:12:24,090 --> 01:12:22,300
amount of field work that you've done

1802
01:12:25,740 --> 01:12:24,100
and really I doff my hat to you ma'am

1803
01:12:28,140 --> 01:12:25,750
well I do appreciate that very much in

1804
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:28,150
that like I said it's going on 54 years

1805
01:12:31,410 --> 01:12:30,130
I can't hardly believe it myself I've

1806
01:12:33,420 --> 01:12:31,420
seen a lot of really interesting

1807
01:12:35,790 --> 01:12:33,430
evidence out in the field over the years

1808
01:12:37,500 --> 01:12:35,800
and talk about training it's there's a

1809
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:37,510
lot involved because when I had my when

1810
01:12:41,010 --> 01:12:39,850
I had my earlier research groups and we

1811
01:12:43,380 --> 01:12:41,020
had a lot of these specialists in the

1812
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:43,390
group we would actually do like training

1813
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:46,090
programs I mean we was we had in former

1814
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:47,530
military intelligence people in law

1815
01:12:51,540 --> 01:12:49,810
enforcement people and we would learn

1816
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:51,550
the techniques of how to interview we

1817
01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:53,650
would learn how to make casts under

1818
01:12:57,630 --> 01:12:56,080
different types of weather conditions we

1819
01:12:59,700 --> 01:12:57,640
would go through a lot of training about

1820
01:13:01,229 --> 01:12:59,710
bunch of our guys were trained by the

1821
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:01,239
civil defense at that time as

1822
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:03,610
radiological monitors and we had a lot

1823
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:05,530
of radiation equipment at the time and

1824
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:10,050
it just took a lot of ongoing regular

1825
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:12,370
involvement to get people out there who

1826
01:13:15,390 --> 01:13:13,449
are trained to deal with these type of

1827
01:13:17,370 --> 01:13:15,400
reports and you know it's very

1828
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:17,380
unfortunate that still today there's no

1829
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:19,330
funding for this type of thing and and

1830
01:13:23,250 --> 01:13:21,250
it looks like there's just not a lot of

1831
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:23,260
really detailed scientific investigation

1832
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:24,850
going on around the country no there's a

1833
01:13:29,490 --> 01:13:27,010
lot of groups out there now a lot of

1834
01:13:31,490 --> 01:13:29,500
individual researchers but there's not

1835
01:13:34,020 --> 01:13:31,500
that many that are really really

1836
01:13:36,390 --> 01:13:34,030
involved in definitely go out in the

1837
01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:36,400
field to investigate Stan this creates

1838
01:13:39,959 --> 01:13:38,320
the impression here that maybe there

1839
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:39,969
would be an equal number of sightings

1840
01:13:45,030 --> 01:13:42,850
per capita per number of people in the

1841
01:13:46,860 --> 01:13:45,040
population whatever in a lot of other

1842
01:13:49,770 --> 01:13:46,870
states if there were only people like

1843
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:49,780
you following up on them well you know

1844
01:13:53,010 --> 01:13:51,370
even though I deal mainly here in

1845
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:53,020
Pennsylvania I get calls here pretty

1846
01:13:57,750 --> 01:13:55,050
much every day from across the country

1847
01:14:00,479 --> 01:13:57,760
from people from many states who have

1848
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:00,489
had past incidents or even recent

1849
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:02,890
incidents mainly a lot or more of with

1850
01:14:07,470 --> 01:14:05,170
UFOs and crypto phenomena but I do get

1851
01:14:09,660 --> 01:14:07,480
calls on those as well but my feeling is

1852
01:14:12,060 --> 01:14:09,670
just talking to other researchers around

1853
01:14:13,830 --> 01:14:12,070
the country is that there's probably a

1854
01:14:16,490 --> 01:14:13,840
lot there's a lot of activity out there

1855
01:14:18,900 --> 01:14:16,500
that people just don't know about and

1856
01:14:21,150 --> 01:14:18,910
you know you got to remember it was a

1857
01:14:22,979 --> 01:14:21,160
lot different back in in the late

1858
01:14:24,190 --> 01:14:22,989
sixties and early seventies when I was

1859
01:14:25,930 --> 01:14:24,200
one of the few

1860
01:14:28,060 --> 01:14:25,940
except for some major groups in the

1861
01:14:29,860 --> 01:14:28,070
country where people could find a report

1862
01:14:31,810 --> 01:14:29,870
we had no internet back in those days so

1863
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:31,820
today you know there are so many

1864
01:14:36,310 --> 01:14:33,890
different individuals or groups around

1865
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:36,320
the country that people can report to

1866
01:14:40,660 --> 01:14:38,810
but a lot of those reports get lost cos

1867
01:14:43,060 --> 01:14:40,670
you never hear about them one problem

1868
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:43,070
you have stan is that with so many

1869
01:14:48,250 --> 01:14:45,650
resources and the scattered nature of

1870
01:14:50,260 --> 01:14:48,260
the internet you have a vast amount of

1871
01:14:53,290 --> 01:14:50,270
information but it's not all put

1872
01:14:55,810 --> 01:14:53,300
together it's just a granted yeah it's

1873
01:14:58,240 --> 01:14:55,820
not collated and coordinated exactly

1874
01:15:00,640 --> 01:14:58,250
that's a shame but it's unfortunate and

1875
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:00,650
you know there's no there's no one

1876
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:02,810
repository for example for all the UFO

1877
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cases are reported there are thousands

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of thousands of thousands of cases out

1879
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there and it's unending its unending and

1880
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these reports even the parent the the

1881
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cryptozoological case is just just

1882
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fascinating some of these things are

1883
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coming in but anyhow you know what I

1884
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started I wanted to bring up to you

1885
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about all these creatures we're talking

1886
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about now we'll be talking about more

1887
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you know we get these reports of these

1888
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giant birds and therefore and strange

1889
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flying cryptids we get report the Black

1890
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Panther sightings here in Pennsylvania

1891
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which I we had a small outbreak of

1892
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sightings here in this summer where I

1893
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interviewed various people in different

1894
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areas who were within 30 some feet of

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these creatures in daylight and we're

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scared to death and of course they're

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not supposed to be around here there's a

1898
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long history of them in Pennsylvania all

1899
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kind of other things from aquatic

1900
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creatures to you know the flying things

1901
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to all kind of other entity reports we

1902
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get here's another great report if you

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want when you read to you from April

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23rd of last year okay I'm gonna ask you

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to basically hold off on that because

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we're going to break for a second in a

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moment we're going to break for a little

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bit of business so our benefactors can

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help us and help the show prosper and

1910
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then we'll get back to that because

1911
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you'll have a lot of interesting cases

1912
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UFO and creature reports during the last

1913
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year and you're going to refer to some

1914
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of them I also want to ask you about the

1915
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April 4th case where you had a UFO with

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square windows that's got to be curious

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we have Stan Gordon joining gene and

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hi the to make poop you listening to the

2011
01:21:00,250 --> 01:20:58,700
parrot Rock Stan Gordon joining gene and

2012
01:21:02,620 --> 01:21:00,260
Chris and the power cast and we're

2013
01:21:03,460 --> 01:21:02,630
covering not just case histories but how

2014
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:03,470
we deal with them

2015
01:21:08,740 --> 01:21:04,850
you were about to bring up one

2016
01:21:10,420 --> 01:21:08,750
particular case in Pennsylvania for 2012

2017
01:21:14,020 --> 01:21:10,430
they'll ask about the second case Stan

2018
01:21:16,150 --> 01:21:14,030
okay this was a interesting event

2019
01:21:18,940 --> 01:21:16,160
happened down in Washington County this

2020
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was April 23rd between 12:30 1:00

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01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:21,320
o'clock in the morning so here's a raw

2022
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:23,210
area again many of these cases are in

2023
01:21:27,310 --> 01:21:25,970
rural areas man here's this unusual the

2024
01:21:28,990 --> 01:21:27,320
animals sound coming on outside he

2025
01:21:30,310 --> 01:21:29,000
sounds like a like a growl or a

2026
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:30,320
screeching sound but he had everything

2027
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:32,090
like it before and he listens for about

2028
01:21:35,980 --> 01:21:34,250
5 minutes then the inside he's been

2029
01:21:38,530 --> 01:21:35,990
awakened his wife so she can listen to

2030
01:21:41,470 --> 01:21:38,540
it as well and they're both into

2031
01:21:42,850 --> 01:21:41,480
listening this thing the sound seemed as

2032
01:21:45,490 --> 01:21:42,860
though it was originating from very

2033
01:21:46,990 --> 01:21:45,500
close by like right outside of the house

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around the outside of the window

2035
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somewhere so look out the window and

2036
01:21:54,100 --> 01:21:51,950
across the road just was a little creek

2037
01:21:55,450 --> 01:21:54,110
and they realize there's something

2038
01:21:57,580 --> 01:21:55,460
standing up in the middle of the creek

2039
01:22:00,160 --> 01:21:57,590
but they couldn't see it very well they

2040
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:00,170
said it looked something like a deer but

2041
01:22:08,290 --> 01:22:04,370
this thing's standing up and it was dark

2042
01:22:10,060 --> 01:22:08,300
brown and it could have been larger than

2043
01:22:12,340 --> 01:22:10,070
a deer because it looked like a Nathan

2044
01:22:14,500 --> 01:22:12,350
peering over the retaining wall and he

2045
01:22:15,460 --> 01:22:14,510
said when it when the creature turns at

2046
01:22:18,700 --> 01:22:15,470
the head it appeared to have any

2047
01:22:20,140 --> 01:22:18,710
elongated face not a stubby as in the

2048
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:20,150
snout as a deer would be appear to be

2049
01:22:24,970 --> 01:22:22,730
more pointed in shape but what was very

2050
01:22:27,130 --> 01:22:24,980
unusual was this thing looked directly

2051
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:27,140
at them towards the window in the home

2052
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:28,970
and they saw wouldn't appear to be too

2053
01:22:33,940 --> 01:22:31,370
big round amber colored eyes that seemed

2054
01:22:36,850 --> 01:22:33,950
to be glowing about the size of a golf

2055
01:22:38,830 --> 01:22:36,860
ball and he said there was there wasn't

2056
01:22:40,290 --> 01:22:38,840
any really close streetlights an area

2057
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:40,300
that would get any type of reflective

2058
01:22:46,210 --> 01:22:43,130
effect that would cause dating like that

2059
01:22:48,250 --> 01:22:46,220
to glow so anyhow the guy decides I know

2060
01:22:50,110 --> 01:22:48,260
what's going on but I want to get across

2061
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:50,120
and see what this thing is that he's

2062
01:22:54,580 --> 01:22:52,250
about to ready to go outside when

2063
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:54,590
suddenly they watch as this thing takes

2064
01:23:01,480 --> 01:22:57,920
one step and it takes off into the sky

2065
01:23:03,220 --> 01:23:01,490
at a 45 degree angle and the guy said he

2066
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:03,230
was unbelievable he said this

2067
01:23:06,970 --> 01:23:05,090
was insane that's exactly what he said

2068
01:23:09,190 --> 01:23:06,980
to me said I never saw him moving so

2069
01:23:12,550 --> 01:23:09,200
fast let's like shut up into the sky and

2070
01:23:14,500 --> 01:23:12,560
was gone and he said he never saw any

2071
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:14,510
indication of any wings on this thing it

2072
01:23:20,470 --> 01:23:17,330
just rose up and was gone and I mean

2073
01:23:23,170 --> 01:23:20,480
these were very credible people Wow yeah

2074
01:23:26,500 --> 01:23:23,180
that's just one of so many weird weird

2075
01:23:29,979 --> 01:23:26,510
cases that are coming in and in fact I'm

2076
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:29,989
not gonna be next weekend down here in

2077
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:32,690
Cabela's in West Virginia there's a free

2078
01:23:37,570 --> 01:23:35,050
actually it's a three-day event on

2079
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:37,580
basically cryptozoology believe it or

2080
01:23:42,490 --> 01:23:39,530
not in an unusually intervals all the

2081
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:42,500
woods and Jeff Meldrum will be coming in

2082
01:23:46,900 --> 01:23:45,170
to speak I'll be speaking Eric Alterman

2083
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:46,910
for the penciling a Bigfoot Society and

2084
01:23:51,100 --> 01:23:49,010
some others it's open to the public they

2085
01:23:53,020 --> 01:23:51,110
go to my website Stan Gordon Don info

2086
01:23:54,430 --> 01:23:53,030
under event they can look at that and

2087
01:23:56,860 --> 01:23:54,440
we're gonna be talking about all kind of

2088
01:23:59,260 --> 01:23:56,870
cryptozoological events and I do get

2089
01:24:01,150 --> 01:23:59,270
some interesting cases from nearby

2090
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:01,160
states like West Virginia as well and

2091
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:03,050
you know talk about these giant bird

2092
01:24:06,790 --> 01:24:04,850
reports and this was not that all's I

2093
01:24:09,550 --> 01:24:06,800
mentioned this is my one book really

2094
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:09,560
mysterious Pennsylvania this was one of

2095
01:24:13,810 --> 01:24:11,570
the better for benefits under bird

2096
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:13,820
sightings and you know with Thunderbird

2097
01:24:18,850 --> 01:24:16,370
reports just like UFOs when something

2098
01:24:21,610 --> 01:24:18,860
seen in the sky at a distance away it's

2099
01:24:24,220 --> 01:24:21,620
very difficult to judge any size and

2100
01:24:26,590 --> 01:24:24,230
distance but in a lot of the cases I

2101
01:24:29,260 --> 01:24:26,600
have these things were at very close

2102
01:24:31,450 --> 01:24:29,270
range and there were ways to get a

2103
01:24:34,330 --> 01:24:31,460
pretty good idea what the wingspan was

2104
01:24:37,180 --> 01:24:34,340
and one of my favorite cases happened in

2105
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:37,190
the fall of 2007 outside of clendenon

2106
01:24:40,690 --> 01:24:38,930
West Virginia that's about eight o'clock

2107
01:24:42,430 --> 01:24:40,700
in the morning and again as you look as

2108
01:24:44,890 --> 01:24:42,440
you look at these reports a lot of these

2109
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:44,900
are day like reports or again very close

2110
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:45,410
range

2111
01:24:50,620 --> 01:24:48,290
so this man's driving down a road two

2112
01:24:52,870 --> 01:24:50,630
lane whirl highway and all of a sudden

2113
01:24:54,460 --> 01:24:52,880
he has to hit his brakes because right

2114
01:24:56,710 --> 01:24:54,470
in the middle of the rotors this huge

2115
01:24:58,360 --> 01:24:56,720
bird that's eating some roadkill and

2116
01:25:01,450 --> 01:24:58,370
blocking the roadway so yes he hit his

2117
01:25:04,620 --> 01:25:01,460
brakes hard from hitting it I have to

2118
01:25:06,820 --> 01:25:04,630
worry about the diet of that big bird

2119
01:25:08,380 --> 01:25:06,830
well after you hear the description the

2120
01:25:10,270 --> 01:25:08,390
thing must be even a lot of lot of

2121
01:25:11,740 --> 01:25:10,280
roadkill out there but he's watching

2122
01:25:13,300 --> 01:25:11,750
this thing and he said it's amazing

2123
01:25:15,310 --> 01:25:13,310
because this thing stood at least four

2124
01:25:16,910 --> 01:25:15,320
feet tall because they had extended

2125
01:25:19,250 --> 01:25:16,920
above the roofline of his vehicle

2126
01:25:22,070 --> 01:25:19,260
and he got a really good look at this

2127
01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:22,080
thing said the the head was dominant but

2128
01:25:26,300 --> 01:25:23,760
not overly Kapoor's in the body they had

2129
01:25:28,070 --> 01:25:26,310
was Federalist wrestling body by a

2130
01:25:30,410 --> 01:25:28,080
prominent yellowish orange collar of

2131
01:25:33,260 --> 01:25:30,420
plumage the body was dark brown and

2132
01:25:34,910 --> 01:25:33,270
black feathers and but he goes on to

2133
01:25:36,530 --> 01:25:34,920
give a really detailed description

2134
01:25:39,380 --> 01:25:36,540
including the eyes were dark in color

2135
01:25:42,380 --> 01:25:39,390
but he said what was most amazing was

2136
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:42,390
this massive wingspan which easily was

2137
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:45,210
as wide as the two-lane road and he said

2138
01:25:48,890 --> 01:25:46,890
he actually went back the next day to

2139
01:25:52,910 --> 01:25:48,900
measure it it was twenty-one feet across

2140
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:52,920
and he said the wings were a secret

2141
01:25:56,420 --> 01:25:54,690
member has arms of human are attached

2142
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:56,430
and it's shoulders and it very much grew

2143
01:26:00,890 --> 01:25:58,320
upper torso and the wings were as if

2144
01:26:03,110 --> 01:26:00,900
they were that's arms he said what was

2145
01:26:04,940 --> 01:26:03,120
really interesting is that we both

2146
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:04,950
startled each other proceedings for his

2147
01:26:09,650 --> 01:26:07,650
look at him as though it wasn't shark

2148
01:26:12,410 --> 01:26:09,660
that was startled that it was being seen

2149
01:26:14,060 --> 01:26:12,420
and the bird ran off from the car that

2150
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:14,070
was going to try to fly off in a really

2151
01:26:18,020 --> 01:26:16,530
awkward manner and ran jumping for one

2152
01:26:19,970 --> 01:26:18,030
foot to the other in a hopping manner

2153
01:26:22,430 --> 01:26:19,980
while its wings were flapping the gained

2154
01:26:24,980 --> 01:26:22,440
speed to take off and then finally I did

2155
01:26:26,660 --> 01:26:24,990
get an airborne and a did take off so

2156
01:26:28,310 --> 01:26:26,670
this guy after a while went to the

2157
01:26:30,110 --> 01:26:28,320
library and began to try to find

2158
01:26:32,510 --> 01:26:30,120
something similar he said the clothes

2159
01:26:34,130 --> 01:26:32,520
they could find was a terror thorn which

2160
01:26:35,930 --> 01:26:34,140
of course is a prehistoric bird it

2161
01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:35,940
should have been extinct we hear other

2162
01:26:39,620 --> 01:26:37,920
similar cases of this I even the last

2163
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:39,630
few years across Pennsylvania well

2164
01:26:43,340 --> 01:26:41,130
that's just very interesting how we get

2165
01:26:44,690 --> 01:26:43,350
this kind of missing link phenomenon by

2166
01:26:46,190 --> 01:26:44,700
wanting to segue to this other case

2167
01:26:48,770 --> 01:26:46,200
because it just caught my eye and this

2168
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:48,780
isn't your report entitled Pennsylvania

2169
01:26:54,350 --> 01:26:51,570
besieged with UFO and creature reports

2170
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:54,360
during 2012 and that is during the early

2171
01:27:00,440 --> 01:26:57,210
morning hours of April 4th 30 40 foot

2172
01:27:05,420 --> 01:27:00,450
diameter metallic saucer shaped object

2173
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:05,430
with square windows tell me more yes I

2174
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:08,010
that's a long report and I should try

2175
01:27:11,270 --> 01:27:09,330
see of average let me go from what I can

2176
01:27:13,450 --> 01:27:11,280
remember here actually what was

2177
01:27:16,610 --> 01:27:13,460
intriguing was just a few hours before

2178
01:27:18,260 --> 01:27:16,620
our report came in from down around

2179
01:27:19,700 --> 01:27:18,270
Lancaster I get that's down in your old

2180
01:27:22,700 --> 01:27:19,710
stomping grounds on that area of

2181
01:27:25,550 --> 01:27:22,710
Pennsylvania as I recall as a husband

2182
01:27:28,910 --> 01:27:25,560
and wife observe this object hovering

2183
01:27:30,250 --> 01:27:28,920
over a field just like a disc and they

2184
01:27:31,870 --> 01:27:30,260
they had a camera and

2185
01:27:32,649 --> 01:27:31,880
took one picture of it they try to get a

2186
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:32,659
picture of his didn't come out

2187
01:27:37,930 --> 01:27:34,730
apparently but there was a flash and

2188
01:27:40,509 --> 01:27:37,940
this thing apparently started to pursue

2189
01:27:42,339 --> 01:27:40,519
their vehicle and it came within 20 some

2190
01:27:45,279 --> 01:27:42,349
feet hovering right over top of the car

2191
01:27:47,500 --> 01:27:45,289
a few hours later in a suburb of

2192
01:27:50,649 --> 01:27:47,510
Pittsburgh this is a populated area

2193
01:27:53,799 --> 01:27:50,659
Bloomfield area Pittsburgh about 12:15

2194
01:27:56,379 --> 01:27:53,809
or morning this young fellas leaving a

2195
01:28:00,129 --> 01:27:56,389
neighbor's house which was close by and

2196
01:28:04,029 --> 01:28:00,139
he was walking over to his home and he

2197
01:28:05,529 --> 01:28:04,039
happened to trip on a tree not a tree

2198
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:05,539
branch but they tripped on something out

2199
01:28:09,339 --> 01:28:07,130
there realizing was of a tree as I

2200
01:28:12,609 --> 01:28:09,349
recall and he happened to look up and

2201
01:28:14,290 --> 01:28:12,619
here's his large object about 30 or 40

2202
01:28:16,660 --> 01:28:14,300
feet in diameter hovering about 30 feet

2203
01:28:18,430 --> 01:28:16,670
above the roof of his home he said it

2204
01:28:21,069 --> 01:28:18,440
was a kind of a saucer shaped with a

2205
01:28:23,379 --> 01:28:21,079
metallic brownish silver color there

2206
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:23,389
appear to be a proxy 30 40 feet in

2207
01:28:27,759 --> 01:28:25,610
diameter with a row of continuous square

2208
01:28:30,009 --> 01:28:27,769
to slightly rectangular windows and

2209
01:28:31,450 --> 01:28:30,019
circling the entire room you're reading

2210
01:28:33,879 --> 01:28:31,460
this from your report right

2211
01:28:35,140 --> 01:28:33,889
yeah okay good I kind of like it better

2212
01:28:38,379 --> 01:28:35,150
if you just tell us in your own words

2213
01:28:40,270 --> 01:28:38,389
but that's fine here yeah so it's about

2214
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:40,280
30 40 feet in diameter what continuous

2215
01:28:45,970 --> 01:28:42,170
row windows is blue and red lights on it

2216
01:28:49,359 --> 01:28:45,980
and but also what he talked about was

2217
01:28:51,129 --> 01:28:49,369
that there was like six thin like

2218
01:28:53,919 --> 01:28:51,139
structures extending down from the

2219
01:28:56,350 --> 01:28:53,929
underside and also he saw what he

2220
01:28:58,810 --> 01:28:56,360
described his symbols or markings like

2221
01:29:01,299 --> 01:28:58,820
triangular symbols on the lower part of

2222
01:29:03,279 --> 01:29:01,309
the object well anyhow he watch this

2223
01:29:07,089 --> 01:29:03,289
thing and it suddenly took off up to the

2224
01:29:09,490 --> 01:29:07,099
sky and he said that it did not just

2225
01:29:11,740 --> 01:29:09,500
disappear fade away in the distance but

2226
01:29:13,839 --> 01:29:11,750
he said it was like a swirl or like a

2227
01:29:16,390 --> 01:29:13,849
tunnel opened in the sky and went into

2228
01:29:18,759 --> 01:29:16,400
it and then that tunnel closed around it

2229
01:29:21,100 --> 01:29:18,769
and it disappeared and he said when the

2230
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:21,110
closed there was like a large patch of

2231
01:29:25,899 --> 01:29:23,449
haze like a glowing robin's egg blue

2232
01:29:27,910 --> 01:29:25,909
color in the sky so he ran inside and

2233
01:29:30,399 --> 01:29:27,920
got his dad he came out and they could

2234
01:29:32,620 --> 01:29:30,409
still see that in the sky and I think

2235
01:29:34,509 --> 01:29:32,630
they got another neighbor another person

2236
01:29:36,250 --> 01:29:34,519
came and watched it as well and was very

2237
01:29:38,770 --> 01:29:36,260
interesting as I recall within that

2238
01:29:41,350 --> 01:29:38,780
24-hour period of that the third and the

2239
01:29:43,180 --> 01:29:41,360
forest there were a number of other

2240
01:29:44,170 --> 01:29:43,190
reports across the state including other

2241
01:29:46,180 --> 01:29:44,180
people seen the strain

2242
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:46,190
but they call like a vortex of light in

2243
01:29:50,890 --> 01:29:48,650
the sky that was somewhat similar to

2244
01:29:52,930 --> 01:29:50,900
what they've described all right this is

2245
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:52,940
something that I'd like to ask you more

2246
01:29:56,950 --> 01:29:55,370
about this vortex in the sky it's kind

2247
01:29:58,900 --> 01:29:56,960
of like almost a dimensional portal

2248
01:30:01,570 --> 01:29:58,910
because I'm thinking of them thinking of

2249
01:30:04,990 --> 01:30:01,580
some of the science fiction shows that

2250
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:05,000
depict this like primeval a British show

2251
01:30:10,180 --> 01:30:07,970
that involve creatures and people going

2252
01:30:12,460 --> 01:30:10,190
back and forth between universes and I

2253
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:12,470
guess the question I want to frame and

2254
01:30:16,990 --> 01:30:13,610
we'll have you answer in the next

2255
01:30:19,210 --> 01:30:17,000
segment are there other cases where UFO

2256
01:30:21,430 --> 01:30:19,220
has disappeared into something like a

2257
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:21,440
vortex or something like that

2258
01:30:26,350 --> 01:30:24,050
what kind of phenomenon is this we have

2259
01:30:30,300 --> 01:30:26,360
Stan Gordon joining gene and Chris and

2260
01:30:36,140 --> 01:30:30,310
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it's just a wrong flyer co-author of the

2355
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Buffalo Cyclopes in other books you're

2356
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:07,260
listening to the pair chat with Gene and

2357
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:09,810
Kris you're in the power cast and Gordon

2358
01:35:16,490 --> 01:35:14,130
and I framed question to Stan about this

2359
01:35:20,150 --> 01:35:16,500
UFO from April 4th disappearing into a

2360
01:35:22,310 --> 01:35:20,160
vortex and Kris had something to add

2361
01:35:25,940 --> 01:35:22,320
before we get Stan's answered yes then

2362
01:35:29,870 --> 01:35:25,950
they did it is fairly reminiscent of the

2363
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:29,880
aperture sort of opening in the sky over

2364
01:35:33,890 --> 01:35:32,370
the Sherman ranch up in Utah that was

2365
01:35:36,770 --> 01:35:33,900
witnessed by any number of people

2366
01:35:39,140 --> 01:35:36,780
including some some scientists who were

2367
01:35:40,910 --> 01:35:39,150
studying phenomena up there where it was

2368
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:40,920
almost like a camera aperture opening

2369
01:35:46,910 --> 01:35:44,130
craft would come in most of the time

2370
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:46,920
craft was seen entering into this

2371
01:35:53,780 --> 01:35:51,090
particular reality if you will but

2372
01:35:56,390 --> 01:35:53,790
you're describing craft leaving how many

2373
01:35:59,150 --> 01:35:56,400
examples of this type of observation do

2374
01:36:01,100 --> 01:35:59,160
you have in your in your database well I

2375
01:36:02,390 --> 01:36:01,110
have literally thousands and thousands

2376
01:36:04,910 --> 01:36:02,400
and thousands of cases here in

2377
01:36:07,730 --> 01:36:04,920
Pennsylvania and I can tell you that's

2378
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:07,740
on the extremely rare that I just cannot

2379
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:09,570
think right off the top of my head I

2380
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:11,730
know I've had some but it's probably

2381
01:36:16,220 --> 01:36:14,010
been years and years it's not something

2382
01:36:19,370 --> 01:36:16,230
that we hear about that often I can tell

2383
01:36:21,410 --> 01:36:19,380
you that what is kind of interesting and

2384
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:21,420
again it's not that common occasion a

2385
01:36:25,820 --> 01:36:23,370
year but going back to the Chestnut

2386
01:36:28,250 --> 01:36:25,830
Ridge again an area where there's a lot

2387
01:36:30,260 --> 01:36:28,260
of everything from giant bird reports to

2388
01:36:32,540 --> 01:36:30,270
Bigfoot sightings to UFOs and all kind

2389
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:32,550
of weird stuff going back to the 60s of

2390
01:36:37,190 --> 01:36:35,250
underground sounds and openings on the

2391
01:36:39,620 --> 01:36:37,200
side of the mountains allegedly and

2392
01:36:42,020 --> 01:36:39,630
weird stuff I on occasion of that people

2393
01:36:44,690 --> 01:36:42,030
tell me that they came across one type

2394
01:36:47,390 --> 01:36:44,700
of swirling vortex up on top of the

2395
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:47,400
ridge like in an opening a portal again

2396
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:49,170
there's no way to prove these stories

2397
01:36:53,300 --> 01:36:50,730
but occasionally hears about these types

2398
01:36:55,850 --> 01:36:53,310
of things but once again the answer is

2399
01:36:58,400 --> 01:36:55,860
very rarely have I heard those reports

2400
01:37:01,190 --> 01:36:58,410
that I can think of so if it happens we

2401
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:01,200
don't see it well again many cases these

2402
01:37:05,450 --> 01:37:03,570
things taken off at an amazing high rate

2403
01:37:07,790 --> 01:37:05,460
of speed they're here one second there

2404
01:37:09,140 --> 01:37:07,800
on the next that's very common so many

2405
01:37:11,170 --> 01:37:09,150
people will call him with seeing

2406
01:37:13,930 --> 01:37:11,180
something moving across the sky

2407
01:37:16,070 --> 01:37:13,940
accelerating and and be gone in seconds

2408
01:37:18,050 --> 01:37:16,080
that's something that's very very common

2409
01:37:19,850 --> 01:37:18,060
but also something else you know we're

2410
01:37:21,980 --> 01:37:19,860
talking about all these crypto Zazula

2411
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:21,990
logical creatures and there's many more

2412
01:37:26,870 --> 01:37:24,810
cases we can talk about and whether

2413
01:37:29,630 --> 01:37:26,880
we're talking about Bigfoot sightings or

2414
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:29,640
giant Birds or Black Panthers or this

2415
01:37:33,850 --> 01:37:31,410
glowing thing and I'll tell you another

2416
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:33,860
really fascinating case of this winged

2417
01:37:39,350 --> 01:37:36,210
humanoid entity was reported north of

2418
01:37:42,140 --> 01:37:39,360
Pittsburgh in 2011 another interesting

2419
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:42,150
report the question is where do these

2420
01:37:45,440 --> 01:37:43,050
things come from

2421
01:37:48,140 --> 01:37:45,450
and where do they go because in all

2422
01:37:51,020 --> 01:37:48,150
these cases and again after after we

2423
01:37:52,010 --> 01:37:51,030
eliminate hoaxes misidentifications then

2424
01:37:53,690 --> 01:37:52,020
you've got some of these really good

2425
01:37:55,970 --> 01:37:53,700
cases here we still look at and wonder

2426
01:37:58,520 --> 01:37:55,980
what people are saying the point is when

2427
01:38:00,380 --> 01:37:58,530
these things happen they're never found

2428
01:38:03,050 --> 01:38:00,390
where do they come from or where do they

2429
01:38:05,390 --> 01:38:03,060
go and as with some of the Bigfoot cases

2430
01:38:07,730 --> 01:38:05,400
we had talked about earlier the

2431
01:38:09,740 --> 01:38:07,740
suggestion is that we're dealing with

2432
01:38:12,350 --> 01:38:09,750
phenomena that has a physical and a

2433
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:12,360
non-physical aspect to it you know are

2434
01:38:15,650 --> 01:38:13,770
we dealing with something is for better

2435
01:38:17,780 --> 01:38:15,660
terms entertainment interdimensional

2436
01:38:19,940 --> 01:38:17,790
that under certain conditions it can

2437
01:38:22,370 --> 01:38:19,950
appear and disappear and there are

2438
01:38:24,860 --> 01:38:22,380
certain places in the country that the

2439
01:38:27,230 --> 01:38:24,870
conditions are right that these things

2440
01:38:28,970 --> 01:38:27,240
happen more frequently again so many

2441
01:38:31,130 --> 01:38:28,980
things we won't have the answers for but

2442
01:38:33,530 --> 01:38:31,140
it sure makes you wonder I think that's

2443
01:38:35,450 --> 01:38:33,540
that's a very good observation and you

2444
01:38:37,990 --> 01:38:35,460
mentioned briefly in passing flying

2445
01:38:40,490 --> 01:38:38,000
humanoid reports just for your own

2446
01:38:42,770 --> 01:38:40,500
knowledge and for our listeners there

2447
01:38:45,260 --> 01:38:42,780
have been an outbreak of flying humanoid

2448
01:38:48,350 --> 01:38:45,270
reports in the San Luis Valley over the

2449
01:38:50,180 --> 01:38:48,360
past two years have you had reports of

2450
01:38:52,340 --> 01:38:50,190
flying humanoids and if so could you

2451
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:52,350
describe them well let me tell you about

2452
01:38:57,050 --> 01:38:53,730
this one case you might find quite

2453
01:38:59,450 --> 01:38:57,060
interesting this is court March 18th of

2454
01:39:02,300 --> 01:38:59,460
2011 this is up in Butler County which

2455
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:02,310
is north of Pittsburgh it's an area that

2456
01:39:06,890 --> 01:39:04,290
I've been looking indicate since the 60s

2457
01:39:09,830 --> 01:39:06,900
up there is another County with a huge

2458
01:39:12,620 --> 01:39:09,840
tremendous amount of history of all kind

2459
01:39:15,770 --> 01:39:12,630
of stuff from UFO landings to entity

2460
01:39:17,450 --> 01:39:15,780
cases to weird stuff and I just been

2461
01:39:18,780 --> 01:39:17,460
torn the last few weeks from people up

2462
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:18,790
in that area that there's a law

2463
01:39:22,740 --> 01:39:21,130
weird activity going on in recent weeks

2464
01:39:25,310 --> 01:39:22,750
and months of their Bigfoot activity and

2465
01:39:28,440 --> 01:39:25,320
whatever but anyhow March 18 2011

2466
01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:28,450
early-morning hours this business man's

2467
01:39:32,850 --> 01:39:30,490
riding down the road between Shakur and

2468
01:39:34,860 --> 01:39:32,860
East Brady and he said this was a

2469
01:39:36,300 --> 01:39:34,870
freakiest thing he ever saw it made the

2470
01:39:37,860 --> 01:39:36,310
hair stand up and back of his neck and

2471
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:37,870
he's telling me how he's driving down

2472
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:39,130
the road is about a quarter mile away

2473
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:41,410
and he sees something on the right side

2474
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:43,930
of this grassy area and his first

2475
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:45,970
thought is it's got to be a deer so he

2476
01:39:50,100 --> 01:39:47,770
steps on the gas turns on his high-beams

2477
01:39:52,170 --> 01:39:50,110
get a better look and it gets closer and

2478
01:39:54,660 --> 01:39:52,180
then all of a sudden he sees this huge

2479
01:39:58,050 --> 01:39:54,670
muscular creature that was hunched down

2480
01:39:59,670 --> 01:39:58,060
stands up and the headlight hits this

2481
01:40:02,130 --> 01:39:59,680
creature which is walking out in front

2482
01:40:03,780 --> 01:40:02,140
of one of those big yellow reflective

2483
01:40:05,730 --> 01:40:03,790
roads on its king so he gets a great

2484
01:40:07,530 --> 01:40:05,740
look at this thing and it Christ was the

2485
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:07,540
two-lane road the three long steps and

2486
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:09,970
goes on disappears until the woods but

2487
01:40:13,650 --> 01:40:11,770
he said what he told me was this he said

2488
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:13,660
I hear people saying about Bigfoot

2489
01:40:17,100 --> 01:40:14,890
around the earrings I've never seen a

2490
01:40:20,910 --> 01:40:17,110
Bigfoot this was not a Bigfoot he said

2491
01:40:22,290 --> 01:40:20,920
this was a tall humanoid figure that

2492
01:40:24,060 --> 01:40:22,300
stood at least eight foot tall and

2493
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:24,070
appeared to be covered in a smooth

2494
01:40:29,340 --> 01:40:27,010
leather like skin there was either dark

2495
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:29,350
piano light brown in color and this

2496
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:31,810
thing was moving sideways the thing

2497
01:40:34,980 --> 01:40:33,130
never worked at him he was looking at it

2498
01:40:37,710 --> 01:40:34,990
for the left side and he said the head

2499
01:40:40,050 --> 01:40:37,720
gonna be flat and it has a shape like

2500
01:40:42,060 --> 01:40:40,060
one of those aerodynamic helmets the

2501
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:42,070
face was flat the eyes were not defined

2502
01:40:46,440 --> 01:40:44,650
well he thought the one here he saw on

2503
01:40:48,090 --> 01:40:46,450
the left side looked long and flat it

2504
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:48,100
came up and back was pointed backwards

2505
01:40:52,620 --> 01:40:50,770
like a flap and the arms were muscular

2506
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:52,630
little longer than that of a human and

2507
01:40:56,730 --> 01:40:54,850
then they look more like a claw or had

2508
01:40:58,860 --> 01:40:56,740
claws on him and he said the one thing

2509
01:41:01,080 --> 01:40:58,870
really stood out was its legs were

2510
01:41:03,270 --> 01:41:01,090
extremely muscular and he said it was

2511
01:41:04,860 --> 01:41:03,280
hard to explain but the legs didn't move

2512
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:04,870
like that of a human they look more like

2513
01:41:10,140 --> 01:41:07,930
they were bent backwards and he said he

2514
01:41:12,630 --> 01:41:10,150
saw what it could be wings on its back

2515
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:12,640
that were tucked into its body with the

2516
01:41:14,910 --> 01:41:14,530
wing tips extending towards the side of

2517
01:41:17,010 --> 01:41:14,920
its head

2518
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:17,020
he started thinking about seven eight

2519
01:41:20,730 --> 01:41:19,090
seconds he went back the next day to

2520
01:41:22,590 --> 01:41:20,740
look for tracks but the ground wasn't

2521
01:41:24,330 --> 01:41:22,600
very good he couldn't find but he said

2522
01:41:26,430 --> 01:41:24,340
he measured the sign was there eight

2523
01:41:29,250 --> 01:41:26,440
feet tall since they was a little bigger

2524
01:41:31,110 --> 01:41:29,260
maybe eight foot four inches tall all

2525
01:41:32,670 --> 01:41:31,120
together so in a more interestingly

2526
01:41:34,860 --> 01:41:32,680
there's a local Reese

2527
01:41:36,270 --> 01:41:34,870
grow up they're called dia but the

2528
01:41:38,910 --> 01:41:36,280
organization of research of the

2529
01:41:41,730 --> 01:41:38,920
unexplained so Dan hit an Hagman runs

2530
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:41,740
that group during that same time period

2531
01:41:45,930 --> 01:41:44,170
he received other independent reports

2532
01:41:47,670 --> 01:41:45,940
from different people now I'm going to

2533
01:41:50,010 --> 01:41:47,680
have to quote right from his reporter

2534
01:41:52,830 --> 01:41:50,020
there short the statement from people

2535
01:41:55,050 --> 01:41:52,840
but right around that same time clubbers

2536
01:41:56,700 --> 01:41:55,060
corner two witnesses driving a Butler

2537
01:41:59,010 --> 01:41:56,710
when it witnessed a dark tan eight foot

2538
01:42:01,500 --> 01:41:59,020
tall weak entity face appeared smashed

2539
01:42:03,450 --> 01:42:01,510
in muscular body had to went to a point

2540
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:03,460
arm so long it could have caused her

2541
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:05,290
fingers but across the road it seemed

2542
01:42:08,700 --> 01:42:07,210
elope with each stride witness stopped

2543
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:08,710
the car in shock and sat there until

2544
01:42:11,580 --> 01:42:09,970
another car came by and they moved

2545
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:11,590
witnesses one to take a lie-detector

2546
01:42:16,230 --> 01:42:13,930
test here's another one two witnesses

2547
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:16,240
left the ice cream stand headed for

2548
01:42:19,890 --> 01:42:18,250
rhymers burg notice something crossing a

2549
01:42:22,440 --> 01:42:19,900
road came when 35 feet of the creature

2550
01:42:24,510 --> 01:42:22,450
stated was least 9 feet tall dark brown

2551
01:42:26,910 --> 01:42:24,520
long arms and broad shoulders pointed

2552
01:42:28,830 --> 01:42:26,920
head flat forehead pointed here's what

2553
01:42:30,810 --> 01:42:28,840
appear to be wings on its back but it

2554
01:42:33,090 --> 01:42:30,820
was extremely muscular there were four

2555
01:42:34,710 --> 01:42:33,100
finger like claws and he can eyes were

2556
01:42:36,870 --> 01:42:34,720
squinted but swept upwards at the

2557
01:42:39,180 --> 01:42:36,880
corners as the creature turned the whole

2558
01:42:41,490 --> 01:42:39,190
body would turn moving the arms were not

2559
01:42:42,990 --> 01:42:41,500
normal the mouth look like a slit wings

2560
01:42:45,210 --> 01:42:43,000
look like a see-through mesh when he

2561
01:42:47,430 --> 01:42:45,220
said with wings on a bat the claws were

2562
01:42:49,710 --> 01:42:47,440
black is called the the witness stated

2563
01:42:52,470 --> 01:42:49,720
this thing was straight from hell do you

2564
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:52,480
have any new reports of it flying no but

2565
01:42:56,340 --> 01:42:54,130
there apparently was a report of

2566
01:43:00,300 --> 01:42:56,350
something somewhat similar several years

2567
01:43:03,630 --> 01:43:00,310
ago on a bridge in that area that flew

2568
01:43:04,950 --> 01:43:03,640
off off the side of the bridge then

2569
01:43:07,260 --> 01:43:04,960
another we don't work County is this

2570
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:07,270
again what county are we talking about

2571
01:43:12,150 --> 01:43:10,330
at the poplar County Butler County okay

2572
01:43:13,440 --> 01:43:12,160
I just wanted to get my bearings that's

2573
01:43:17,190 --> 01:43:13,450
what north of Pittsburgh you said

2574
01:43:20,730 --> 01:43:17,200
correct okay Wow amazing stuff we've had

2575
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:20,740
over a dozen fairly good sightings over

2576
01:43:25,010 --> 01:43:23,890
the past two years of of actual flying

2577
01:43:28,050 --> 01:43:25,020
humanoids

2578
01:43:32,270 --> 01:43:28,060
including the very first minute that we

2579
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:32,280
had the San Luis Valley camera feed up

2580
01:43:37,260 --> 01:43:35,170
our chief tech Angie Pao Freeman would

2581
01:43:38,610 --> 01:43:37,270
you know fired the thing up for the

2582
01:43:41,070 --> 01:43:38,620
first time and he witnessed what he

2583
01:43:43,550 --> 01:43:41,080
described as two flying humanoids flying

2584
01:43:46,250 --> 01:43:43,560
across in front of the Great Sand Dunes

2585
01:43:48,860 --> 01:43:46,260
he was all the way out in Xtreme 36

2586
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:48,870
times optical zoom and it was difficult

2587
01:43:53,780 --> 01:43:51,810
for him to estimate size but seabirds

2588
01:43:55,430 --> 01:43:53,790
you know in the months after that seen

2589
01:43:58,790 --> 01:43:55,440
birds flying around and and seeing

2590
01:44:00,770 --> 01:43:58,800
mundane sort of prosaic flying activity

2591
01:44:03,740 --> 01:44:00,780
around there he estimated them to be

2592
01:44:05,780 --> 01:44:03,750
about humanoid size and and sitting in a

2593
01:44:08,030 --> 01:44:05,790
kind of sea in a seated position and

2594
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:08,040
flying like they had jetpacks or

2595
01:44:11,300 --> 01:44:09,570
something on their backs almost like

2596
01:44:13,070 --> 01:44:11,310
something out of a I don't know some

2597
01:44:14,810 --> 01:44:13,080
sort of sci-fi movie or something

2598
01:44:17,420 --> 01:44:14,820
obviously they were quite a distance

2599
01:44:20,690 --> 01:44:17,430
away from him he figured 18 to 20 miles

2600
01:44:22,550 --> 01:44:20,700
but with 36 times optical zoom on top of

2601
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:22,560
a tower you're able to get a fairly good

2602
01:44:26,860 --> 01:44:24,570
view of these things I would really be

2603
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:26,870
interested to hear of some of these

2604
01:44:32,690 --> 01:44:30,330
types of humanoid creatures as reported

2605
01:44:35,180 --> 01:44:32,700
as flying and I'm sure you're aware of

2606
01:44:37,460 --> 01:44:35,190
some of the late 90s reports from Mexico

2607
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:37,470
and I think a couple in South America

2608
01:44:42,470 --> 01:44:40,290
where these types of as they would

2609
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:42,480
describe witches we're flying around why

2610
01:44:46,610 --> 01:44:44,850
don't you go ahead and continue it with

2611
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:46,620
some of the more recent reports that

2612
01:44:51,140 --> 01:44:48,930
you've received and then kind of you

2613
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:51,150
know make a an effort to identify where

2614
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:52,890
in the state we're talking about we'll

2615
01:44:57,790 --> 01:44:55,050
do that in our next segment we have Stan

2616
01:45:01,340 --> 01:44:57,800
Gordon UFO investigator from

2617
01:45:04,190 --> 01:45:01,350
Pennsylvania exploring UFOs strange

2618
01:45:05,810 --> 01:45:04,200
creatures and all sorts of stuff and I'd

2619
01:45:07,700 --> 01:45:05,820
hate to see one of those things my back

2620
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:07,710
lawn so we're not exploring the ones

2621
01:45:11,450 --> 01:45:09,570
that happen in the Phoenix area because

2622
01:45:13,790 --> 01:45:11,460
it will say month gene you'll send me

2623
01:45:15,530 --> 01:45:13,800
one okay and I'll leave very fast why

2624
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:15,540
get rid of me that's the way to do it

2625
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:18,090
send me a UFO or a strange creature or a

2626
01:45:21,140 --> 01:45:18,930
Thunderbird

2627
01:45:26,310 --> 01:45:21,150
we have Stan Gordon joining gene and

2628
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:29,020
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2629
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2630
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2631
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2632
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2633
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2645
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2646
01:46:11,180 --> 01:46:09,900
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2647
01:46:13,220 --> 01:46:11,190
Anderson have you ever wondered why

2648
01:46:15,169 --> 01:46:13,230
banks stockbrokers investment advisors

2649
01:46:17,540 --> 01:46:15,179
won't talk about gold IRAs they've been

2650
01:46:19,250 --> 01:46:17,550
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2651
01:46:20,959 --> 01:46:19,260
industry won't recognize the value of

2652
01:46:22,910 --> 01:46:20,969
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2653
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:22,920
outperformed paper investments yet no

2654
01:46:27,709 --> 01:46:24,810
word about IRAs if you would like to

2655
01:46:30,410 --> 01:46:27,719
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2656
01:46:39,649 --> 01:46:30,420
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2657
01:46:44,870 --> 01:46:42,110
it's time for a home security quiz

2658
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:44,880
answer this what effective home security

2659
01:46:48,620 --> 01:46:46,650
device is smaller than a coffee cup

2660
01:46:50,090 --> 01:46:48,630
fakes out burglars into thinking someone

2661
01:46:52,370 --> 01:46:50,100
is home at your house while you were

2662
01:46:53,899 --> 01:46:52,380
away plugs into any wall outlet is

2663
01:46:57,530 --> 01:46:53,909
recommended by many police departments

2664
01:47:00,320 --> 01:46:57,540
and sells for less than $35 yes

2665
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:00,330
it's fake TV this year about one in

2666
01:47:04,459 --> 01:47:02,489
every 50 US homes will have a break in

2667
01:47:07,220 --> 01:47:04,469
with burglars usually picking the easy

2668
01:47:09,229 --> 01:47:07,230
targets a dark house that looks like no

2669
01:47:11,209 --> 01:47:09,239
one is home fake TV is a small

2670
01:47:13,729 --> 01:47:11,219
electronic security device that makes it

2671
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:13,739
look like someone is home watching TV by

2672
01:47:18,260 --> 01:47:16,170
simulating the light from a real TV it's

2673
01:47:21,410 --> 01:47:18,270
like a lamp on a timer but far more

2674
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:21,420
convincing and for only 3495 fake TV

2675
01:47:25,070 --> 01:47:23,130
could be the difference between coming

2676
01:47:28,250 --> 01:47:25,080
home to a secure house or one that's

2677
01:47:30,770 --> 01:47:28,260
been ransacked go to fake tv.com or call

2678
01:47:33,050 --> 01:47:30,780
one eight seven seven five fake TV

2679
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:33,060
that's eight seven seven five three two

2680
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:35,730
five three eight eight or go to fake

2681
01:47:53,870 --> 01:47:49,640
welcome back to to the para cast the

2682
01:48:01,910 --> 01:47:53,880
gold standard of paranormal radio and

2683
01:48:04,460 --> 01:48:01,920
now here's Jane Steinberg in our

2684
01:48:06,770 --> 01:48:04,470
previous segment I said that if we have

2685
01:48:09,170 --> 01:48:06,780
strange phenomenon here and we get a lot

2686
01:48:11,150 --> 01:48:09,180
of crazy stuff in Arizona I'd be moving

2687
01:48:13,580 --> 01:48:11,160
to another state a state of confusion

2688
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:13,590
maybe Stan Gordon Chris asks you a long

2689
01:48:19,210 --> 01:48:16,410
question would you respond a case it

2690
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:19,220
happens the first day of this year 2013

2691
01:48:23,810 --> 01:48:22,530
down in a few miles from warm web and

2692
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:23,820
down the South Greensburg Pennsylvania

2693
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:26,730
of all places okay it's very very close

2694
01:48:31,940 --> 01:48:30,690
by it there's a main highway robber 119

2695
01:48:34,670 --> 01:48:31,950
runs right through south Greensboro

2696
01:48:36,260 --> 01:48:34,680
there's been a history of big bird

2697
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:36,270
sightings down in that area

2698
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:38,610
and one of the first case we had was

2699
01:48:44,750 --> 01:48:42,930
September 25th of 2001 and here's a

2700
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:44,760
fellow was outside and he happened to

2701
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:46,410
hear the sound has tracked him to look

2702
01:48:52,070 --> 01:48:48,930
up he said it sounded like flags

2703
01:48:53,810 --> 01:48:52,080
flapping in the thunderstorm and he

2704
01:48:56,390 --> 01:48:53,820
looked to see this huge dark bird

2705
01:48:58,760 --> 01:48:56,400
blacker dark rags grayish Brown of color

2706
01:49:01,220 --> 01:48:58,770
and was flying right over top of the

2707
01:49:05,030 --> 01:49:01,230
trucks and the cars about 50 to 60 feet

2708
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:05,040
overhead and he has made this thing at a

2709
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:07,290
wingspan at 10 to 15 feet and it was

2710
01:49:12,380 --> 01:49:10,290
flapping across there and moved down the

2711
01:49:14,570 --> 01:49:12,390
road and actually landed it up in a tree

2712
01:49:17,270 --> 01:49:14,580
there a big billboard and he said it was

2713
01:49:18,590 --> 01:49:17,280
amazed because when it came back off of

2714
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:18,600
those branches he thought that whole

2715
01:49:22,100 --> 01:49:19,890
thing was going to break from the huge

2716
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:22,110
weight of it but then just a few years

2717
01:49:27,050 --> 01:49:25,530
ago in that same area four people were

2718
01:49:29,030 --> 01:49:27,060
having a barbecue about a quarter mile

2719
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:29,040
down the road they hear the swooshing

2720
01:49:32,870 --> 01:49:30,570
sound they look up at about 40 feet

2721
01:49:34,460 --> 01:49:32,880
overhead there's this huge dark bird

2722
01:49:36,890 --> 01:49:34,470
with his beak straight down looking at

2723
01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:36,900
him with huge wings flying right over

2724
01:49:41,420 --> 01:49:39,330
top of them and making that beeline down

2725
01:49:45,020 --> 01:49:41,430
through the woods and then this past

2726
01:49:47,390 --> 01:49:45,030
January 1st of this year at the

2727
01:49:49,490 --> 01:49:47,400
beautiful afternoon we had had a snow

2728
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:49,500
storm a couple days before so he's two

2729
01:49:53,210 --> 01:49:51,690
women a young boy decided to take a walk

2730
01:49:56,570 --> 01:49:53,220
through the woods the look at the

2731
01:49:58,010 --> 01:49:56,580
beautiful scenery it was about 32

2732
01:49:58,759 --> 01:49:58,020
degrees at the time and the areas

2733
01:50:02,540 --> 01:49:58,769
covered with snow

2734
01:50:05,629 --> 01:50:02,550
and about 3 p.m. they're walking into

2735
01:50:08,689 --> 01:50:05,639
the woods and about 20 25 feet away the

2736
01:50:09,890 --> 01:50:08,699
two women are very startled and the boy

2737
01:50:11,989 --> 01:50:09,900
was kind of looking in the opposite

2738
01:50:14,209 --> 01:50:11,999
direction time and they the women both

2739
01:50:16,310 --> 01:50:14,219
said at the same time did you see the

2740
01:50:18,979 --> 01:50:16,320
size of that bird and what they were

2741
01:50:20,930 --> 01:50:18,989
referring to they see there's what

2742
01:50:23,359 --> 01:50:20,940
appeared to be these huge wings open up

2743
01:50:25,069 --> 01:50:23,369
on the ground they estimated from where

2744
01:50:27,410 --> 01:50:25,079
they were maybe 6 7 feet wide it's an

2745
01:50:29,629 --> 01:50:27,420
estimate and how this creature on forest

2746
01:50:31,430 --> 01:50:29,639
wings almost rolled them out and then

2747
01:50:34,819 --> 01:50:31,440
flapped them once and fold them back up

2748
01:50:37,669 --> 01:50:34,829
and it moved right behind these trees so

2749
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:37,679
they immediately run over to that area

2750
01:50:42,109 --> 01:50:40,170
which is 20 25 feet away there were

2751
01:50:44,750 --> 01:50:42,119
areas all open so you can see between

2752
01:50:46,549 --> 01:50:44,760
the trees it's it's not that thick they

2753
01:50:49,009 --> 01:50:46,559
run right over to the area where it was

2754
01:50:51,229 --> 01:50:49,019
it's not there they look all over the

2755
01:50:53,660 --> 01:50:51,239
place there's deer tracks but there's no

2756
01:50:55,790 --> 01:50:53,670
bird tracks there are no sounds there's

2757
01:50:57,919 --> 01:50:55,800
no flapping of wings if it was been a

2758
01:50:59,720 --> 01:50:57,929
big bird right there at that distance

2759
01:51:02,479 --> 01:50:59,730
they would have seen it taken off which

2760
01:51:03,859 --> 01:51:02,489
they didn't and it's they said it was

2761
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:03,869
just like it just vanished and

2762
01:51:08,959 --> 01:51:07,170
disappeared and it's another one of the

2763
01:51:09,649 --> 01:51:08,969
strange stories that we're not sure what

2764
01:51:12,979 --> 01:51:09,659
to make of it

2765
01:51:14,779 --> 01:51:12,989
my goodness in that area by the way and

2766
01:51:17,540 --> 01:51:14,789
again you know you're talking a fairly

2767
01:51:19,100 --> 01:51:17,550
well populated area I mean the city of

2768
01:51:21,229 --> 01:51:19,110
Greensburg is only a couple miles away

2769
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:21,239
this is South Greensburg there's a lot

2770
01:51:25,430 --> 01:51:22,530
of people right there's a lot of woods

2771
01:51:28,189 --> 01:51:25,440
around there too though and over the

2772
01:51:29,959 --> 01:51:28,199
last all heck eight ten years I've had

2773
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:29,969
reports from different people of course

2774
01:51:33,739 --> 01:51:31,530
not only seeing these big birds but

2775
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:33,749
hearing this loud like a swooshing

2776
01:51:37,729 --> 01:51:36,090
whooshing sound like something big like

2777
01:51:39,950 --> 01:51:37,739
a big bird flew over top of their head

2778
01:51:41,390 --> 01:51:39,960
but they didn't see it this came from

2779
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:41,400
different people and other reports of

2780
01:51:46,250 --> 01:51:44,010
people seeing like a youth shadow of a

2781
01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:46,260
giant bird coming down over top of their

2782
01:51:50,569 --> 01:51:48,690
car things along that line as well so

2783
01:51:53,239 --> 01:51:50,579
that's been very interesting also I've

2784
01:51:55,459 --> 01:51:53,249
had recent reports up in Indiana County

2785
01:51:58,160 --> 01:51:55,469
which also has a lot of history of

2786
01:52:00,220 --> 01:51:58,170
Bigfoot activity where a a resident

2787
01:52:04,819 --> 01:52:00,230
contacted me about incident happened

2788
01:52:07,310 --> 01:52:04,829
several weeks ago and it had snowed up

2789
01:52:09,469 --> 01:52:07,320
there of course but something was

2790
01:52:12,260 --> 01:52:09,479
disturbing the animals something was

2791
01:52:14,690 --> 01:52:12,270
banging on the side of the house

2792
01:52:16,940 --> 01:52:14,700
and then they found a series of unusual

2793
01:52:19,930 --> 01:52:16,950
footprints on long series of footprints

2794
01:52:22,340 --> 01:52:19,940
that went across her property and

2795
01:52:23,690 --> 01:52:22,350
unfortunately she didn't have a camera

2796
01:52:26,030 --> 01:52:23,700
that was working wasn't able to get any

2797
01:52:27,350 --> 01:52:26,040
pictures and at that time as I recall

2798
01:52:30,590 --> 01:52:27,360
these things are only about eight inches

2799
01:52:32,090 --> 01:52:30,600
long but clearly five-toed and she was

2800
01:52:34,180 --> 01:52:32,100
thinking herself like why would anybody

2801
01:52:36,770 --> 01:52:34,190
be walking in the snow their bare feet

2802
01:52:38,780 --> 01:52:36,780
not thinking it was a Bigfoot type thing

2803
01:52:40,070 --> 01:52:38,790
until later on but maybe a smaller

2804
01:52:42,290 --> 01:52:40,080
Bigfoot creature because we've had

2805
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:42,300
reports of smaller ones and large ones

2806
01:52:46,670 --> 01:52:44,610
seen here in Pennsylvania so that's

2807
01:52:50,270 --> 01:52:46,680
relatively recent as well I've had some

2808
01:52:52,190 --> 01:52:50,280
other UFO cases being reported not that

2809
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:52,200
detailed from the last few weeks still

2810
01:52:55,460 --> 01:52:53,730
look into some of those cases trying to

2811
01:52:57,770 --> 01:52:55,470
get more information on them so we're

2812
01:52:59,630 --> 01:52:57,780
more about those later I have a really

2813
01:53:02,120 --> 01:52:59,640
fascinating case from last year another

2814
01:53:04,250 --> 01:53:02,130
one of those really strange bizarre UFO

2815
01:53:06,470 --> 01:53:04,260
with a really weird type of creature

2816
01:53:08,900 --> 01:53:06,480
case something I hadn't heard of before

2817
01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:08,910
and something and interesting and Nick

2818
01:53:13,730 --> 01:53:11,610
Redford actually was really interested

2819
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:13,740
in a report because he had a similar

2820
01:53:18,230 --> 01:53:16,650
report years ago from England and so he

2821
01:53:20,210 --> 01:53:18,240
was quite interested in this particular

2822
01:53:20,900 --> 01:53:20,220
case why don't you go for it sounds

2823
01:53:22,970 --> 01:53:20,910
fascinating

2824
01:53:25,070 --> 01:53:22,980
alright so this is back at down a

2825
01:53:27,230 --> 01:53:25,080
Washington County again and again all

2826
01:53:29,090 --> 01:53:27,240
these stories on relating to you is from

2827
01:53:31,310 --> 01:53:29,100
different people we don't know each

2828
01:53:33,410 --> 01:53:31,320
other none of them have gone public so

2829
01:53:35,480 --> 01:53:33,420
their names haven't been used so here's

2830
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:35,490
another case this occurred

2831
01:53:40,220 --> 01:53:37,530
believe it was May the 7th around 11:00

2832
01:53:42,110 --> 01:53:40,230
10:00 in the evening I got to call on it

2833
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:42,120
earlier the next morning I got it was

2834
01:53:45,830 --> 01:53:43,410
able to get all the girlies the next

2835
01:53:48,230 --> 01:53:45,840
morning and talk to him do some various

2836
01:53:50,660 --> 01:53:48,240
interviews it was later followed up by

2837
01:53:52,370 --> 01:53:50,670
one of my research associates uh Keith

2838
01:53:54,140 --> 01:53:52,380
Bastian eating is a trained

2839
01:53:55,940 --> 01:53:54,150
archaeologist a graphic artist and he

2840
01:53:58,910 --> 01:53:55,950
went out to the scene and did some great

2841
01:54:00,170 --> 01:53:58,920
sketches and but but also I want to

2842
01:54:01,550 --> 01:54:00,180
mention you know all these cases we're

2843
01:54:03,710 --> 01:54:01,560
talking about or most of the case we're

2844
01:54:05,540 --> 01:54:03,720
talking about people go to my website

2845
01:54:07,130 --> 01:54:05,550
Stan Gordon Don info and they can read

2846
01:54:09,110 --> 01:54:07,140
over a lot of these reports a lot of

2847
01:54:11,150 --> 01:54:09,120
other ones as well and also there's a

2848
01:54:14,090 --> 01:54:11,160
lot of upcoming events they can look at

2849
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:14,100
as well but anyhow the event goes on

2850
01:54:19,610 --> 01:54:15,570
that about 11:00 10:00 that night this

2851
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:19,620
fellas in his living room and all of a

2852
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:22,050
sudden there's is bright white light

2853
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:23,970
streaming in from the window from his

2854
01:54:26,900 --> 01:54:25,410
right so you get

2855
01:54:29,420 --> 01:54:26,910
off the couch it goes over to the window

2856
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:29,430
and looking out over the parking lot

2857
01:54:33,350 --> 01:54:31,770
area and he found the source of light to

2858
01:54:36,890 --> 01:54:33,360
be this large object that's hovering

2859
01:54:39,380 --> 01:54:36,900
about a hundred feet away and the object

2860
01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:39,390
resembles like a football the point

2861
01:54:43,460 --> 01:54:41,250
hands aligned vertically there like a

2862
01:54:45,620 --> 01:54:43,470
vertical football in the sky but it has

2863
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:45,630
like two perpendicular like arrays in

2864
01:54:50,090 --> 01:54:47,490
the middle of a very unusual looking

2865
01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:50,100
thing and each array was about 30 feet

2866
01:54:54,230 --> 01:54:52,290
length he estimated and arrayed

2867
01:54:56,390 --> 01:54:54,240
supported like seven round lights and

2868
01:54:59,360 --> 01:54:56,400
they remind me of a baseball stadium

2869
01:55:01,310 --> 01:54:59,370
lights a square line grille covered each

2870
01:55:03,110 --> 01:55:01,320
of the whites there were three darker

2871
01:55:05,150 --> 01:55:03,120
bands swimmers are white stripes on a

2872
01:55:06,410 --> 01:55:05,160
football then circled to craft and he

2873
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:06,420
tried to think like what could this

2874
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:09,450
thing be and he thought whatever so kind

2875
01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:11,010
of like weather aircraft or helicopter

2876
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:13,650
because it is formed in the area and he

2877
01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:15,090
thought maybe there was such a thing

2878
01:55:20,150 --> 01:55:16,650
which of course there isn't at least not

2879
01:55:22,370 --> 01:55:20,160
in this area and anyhow it's about a

2880
01:55:26,690 --> 01:55:22,380
hundred feet away that he didn't hear

2881
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:26,700
any sound anyhow at some point he grabs

2882
01:55:32,030 --> 01:55:29,970
his sunny PlayStation Vita and runs

2883
01:55:33,830 --> 01:55:32,040
outside and tries to get some video of

2884
01:55:35,690 --> 01:55:33,840
this thing that's just moving off of the

2885
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:35,700
distance and there is a very short piece

2886
01:55:40,490 --> 01:55:38,130
of video but not really much enough to

2887
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:40,500
do anything with it but anyhow the

2888
01:55:45,140 --> 01:55:43,530
interesting thing is this the next day

2889
01:55:46,670 --> 01:55:45,150
he goes out and goes out around that

2890
01:55:52,340 --> 01:55:46,680
area looking around was thing has been

2891
01:55:54,260 --> 01:55:52,350
hovering and anyhow he said and as he's

2892
01:55:56,810 --> 01:55:54,270
looking around in the area where this

2893
01:55:58,760 --> 01:55:56,820
thing had been over that area there's a

2894
01:56:00,230 --> 01:55:58,770
power of rubble of electron Creek

2895
01:56:03,620 --> 01:56:00,240
fragments where they been doing some

2896
01:56:05,750 --> 01:56:03,630
work out there and the thing had been

2897
01:56:07,670 --> 01:56:05,760
hovering and he sees this large

2898
01:56:10,310 --> 01:56:07,680
slug-like creature slithering in the

2899
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:10,320
weeds the thing was shiny black like a

2900
01:56:15,050 --> 01:56:12,930
slug with no parent eyes or appendages

2901
01:56:17,780 --> 01:56:15,060
it was between two and a half to three

2902
01:56:19,850 --> 01:56:17,790
feet length and 17 inches of thickness

2903
01:56:21,350 --> 01:56:19,860
and he watched the thing withering

2904
01:56:23,630 --> 01:56:21,360
around in the weeds it's live into a

2905
01:56:25,460 --> 01:56:23,640
hole in the rubble pile and he kept

2906
01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:25,470
going back during the day with a camera

2907
01:56:29,330 --> 01:56:27,210
to try to get a picture this thing but

2908
01:56:31,550 --> 01:56:29,340
he never saw it again and he just

2909
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:31,560
thought it was so bizarre and why was in

2910
01:56:36,070 --> 01:56:33,810
the area and he somehow believed that it

2911
01:56:38,540 --> 01:56:36,080
was somehow related to what he saw and

2912
01:56:40,970 --> 01:56:38,550
I've had a lot of report of

2913
01:56:42,859 --> 01:56:40,980
type of UFO entities over the years but

2914
01:56:45,439 --> 01:56:42,869
I've never had a reporting like this and

2915
01:56:47,330 --> 01:56:45,449
again Nick had indicated they had a very

2916
01:56:49,790 --> 01:56:47,340
similar report from the United Kingdom a

2917
01:56:52,069 --> 01:56:49,800
number of years before now one thing to

2918
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:52,079
point out here is we don't seem to see

2919
01:56:57,950 --> 01:56:56,010
necessarily a consistency in the style

2920
01:56:59,990 --> 01:56:57,960
of UFOs they come in all shapes and

2921
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:00,000
sizes we have different types of

2922
01:57:03,589 --> 01:57:02,010
entities and so I guess it's fair to

2923
01:57:07,129 --> 01:57:03,599
suggest and we'll go into this more in

2924
01:57:09,919 --> 01:57:07,139
our next segment that maybe whatever is

2925
01:57:13,879 --> 01:57:09,929
bringing us UFOs whatever force source

2926
01:57:18,100 --> 01:57:13,889
or whatever it has a number of possible

2927
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:18,110
origins it's not just one planet one

2928
01:57:23,180 --> 01:57:21,090
parallel universe or whatever it might

2929
01:57:26,030 --> 01:57:23,190
be many answers many many answers other

2930
01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:26,040
than the residue that's conventional we

2931
01:57:29,990 --> 01:57:28,050
have Stan Gordon long time UFO

2932
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:30,000
paranormal researcher joining us with

2933
01:57:36,210 --> 01:57:40,310
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is not accountable to our elected

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original value now foreign governments

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are trying to divest themselves from

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observed that most brain malfunctions

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have at their roots some form of

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toxicity and brain damage so whether it

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is for memory or focus lack of creative

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thinking or more serious matters like

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inability to focus speak normally or

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has suffered some borderline autism and

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constipation

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i got him on one more way and in two

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months his constipation is gone it's

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become friendlier he can carry on a

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normal conversation with me and he has

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made it first friend he's doing great

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and he looks forward to taking one

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present or cake and he would prefer the

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hello this is rosemary ellen guiley and

3027
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you're listening to the podcast the gold

3028
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standard a paranormal radio

3029
02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:01,350
with gene and Chris we're trying to be

3030
02:02:05,070 --> 02:02:03,730
consistent on the para cast but how can

3031
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:05,080
we be consistent when we're talking

3032
02:02:09,930 --> 02:02:07,570
about the strange and unknown so okay

3033
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:09,940
the consistency and lack thereof of

3034
02:02:14,580 --> 02:02:12,490
paranormal events Stan Gordon what have

3035
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:14,590
you to say well you know in regards to

3036
02:02:18,450 --> 02:02:17,050
the types of craft the shapes being

3037
02:02:21,420 --> 02:02:18,460
reported there there are some

3038
02:02:23,580 --> 02:02:21,430
consistencies and some of the standard

3039
02:02:25,740 --> 02:02:23,590
discs and the saucers which field here

3040
02:02:27,990 --> 02:02:25,750
is about as much as eight years ago but

3041
02:02:31,050 --> 02:02:28,000
you get a lot of reports of triangular

3042
02:02:33,780 --> 02:02:31,060
objects and rectangular objects at times

3043
02:02:36,150 --> 02:02:33,790
and elliptical objects cigar shaped

3044
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:36,160
objects being reported and then you've

3045
02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:38,650
got a variety of other type of what is

3046
02:02:42,150 --> 02:02:39,970
there craft or whatever we're dealing

3047
02:02:44,070 --> 02:02:42,160
with some other variations in different

3048
02:02:45,930 --> 02:02:44,080
descriptions and this is one of those

3049
02:02:50,340 --> 02:02:45,940
oddball ones we just talked about down

3050
02:02:51,540 --> 02:02:50,350
or Washington PA and you look at a lot

3051
02:02:53,910 --> 02:02:51,550
of what we've learned about these

3052
02:02:55,650 --> 02:02:53,920
incidents and the strangeness of some of

3053
02:02:58,110 --> 02:02:55,660
these cases with with UFOs and the

3054
02:03:00,450 --> 02:02:58,120
cryptozoological creatures and there's a

3055
02:03:02,540 --> 02:03:00,460
there's a lot of things that a lot of

3056
02:03:04,530 --> 02:03:02,550
people have never heard about and

3057
02:03:06,870 --> 02:03:04,540
especially involving with the crypto

3058
02:03:08,370 --> 02:03:06,880
creatures and you know the Black Panther

3059
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:08,380
sightings we really didn't touch much on

3060
02:03:11,580 --> 02:03:10,090
those but of course you know what a lot

3061
02:03:13,350 --> 02:03:11,590
of people think about Black Panthers

3062
02:03:15,600 --> 02:03:13,360
they think about black leopards or

3063
02:03:17,370 --> 02:03:15,610
Jaguars which here in Pennsylvania those

3064
02:03:19,170 --> 02:03:17,380
are nine animals or Commons in this area

3065
02:03:20,940 --> 02:03:19,180
but there has been a history these

3066
02:03:23,970 --> 02:03:20,950
things being seen for years and years

3067
02:03:25,650 --> 02:03:23,980
and I mean there was one incident back

3068
02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:25,660
in the 80s a suburb of Pittsburgh and

3069
02:03:30,450 --> 02:03:27,970
daylight where a black panther jumped

3070
02:03:32,730 --> 02:03:30,460
across offense was within a few feet and

3071
02:03:34,500 --> 02:03:32,740
a light of a auto mechanic working on a

3072
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:34,510
car in the suburb of Pittsburgh and

3073
02:03:38,250 --> 02:03:36,850
jumped back over the fence went into the

3074
02:03:40,650 --> 02:03:38,260
woods and it was seen with another

3075
02:03:42,330 --> 02:03:40,660
smaller one and several people saw it

3076
02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:42,340
and this led to a major search by the

3077
02:03:46,110 --> 02:03:44,170
Pittsburgh Police and the animal

3078
02:03:48,840 --> 02:03:46,120
protectors with tranquilizer guns and

3079
02:03:51,510 --> 02:03:48,850
never did find them nothing missing for

3080
02:03:53,010 --> 02:03:51,520
many zoos or carnivals and again what

3081
02:03:56,130 --> 02:03:53,020
are these things come from where do they

3082
02:03:57,690 --> 02:03:56,140
go but what's really odd when you start

3083
02:04:00,360 --> 02:03:57,700
looking to some of the history of these

3084
02:04:02,130 --> 02:04:00,370
things that you'll quite often find just

3085
02:04:05,160 --> 02:04:02,140
like weather talk about the skinwalker

3086
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:05,170
ranch or other areas of the country in

3087
02:04:10,590 --> 02:04:07,930
eevn Pennsylvania occasionally you run

3088
02:04:11,340 --> 02:04:10,600
into situations where for a period of

3089
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days or

3090
02:04:16,430 --> 02:04:13,390
weeks or months there are certain

3091
02:04:19,170 --> 02:04:16,440
specific geographical locations where

3092
02:04:20,970 --> 02:04:19,180
ongoing phenomena of different kind are

3093
02:04:23,160 --> 02:04:20,980
active you have different types of

3094
02:04:26,010 --> 02:04:23,170
creatures being seen UFO activity as a

3095
02:04:28,110 --> 02:04:26,020
paranormal phenomena but for example in

3096
02:04:29,580 --> 02:04:28,120
least one outbreak we had back in the

3097
02:04:32,160 --> 02:04:29,590
80s and a certain area here in

3098
02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:32,170
southwestern PA while different people

3099
02:04:36,540 --> 02:04:34,570
reporting Bigfoot activity others in the

3100
02:04:38,910 --> 02:04:36,550
same area we're seeing Black Panthers I

3101
02:04:41,100 --> 02:04:38,920
have not had these cases but I know

3102
02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:41,110
there's been other reports historically

3103
02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:44,110
from other states people seeing Black

3104
02:04:49,530 --> 02:04:46,090
Panthers and Bigfoot being seen together

3105
02:04:51,720 --> 02:04:49,540
I interviewed a guy several months ago

3106
02:04:52,860 --> 02:04:51,730
who had never had reported this is just

3107
02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:52,870
the right place and he was very

3108
02:04:57,090 --> 02:04:54,850
reluctant to tell me and I didn't get a

3109
02:04:59,280 --> 02:04:57,100
lot of details but he was up and I

3110
02:05:01,320 --> 02:04:59,290
believe was up oh this is going up

3111
02:05:03,210 --> 02:05:01,330
towards Johnstown Cambria County here's

3112
02:05:05,700 --> 02:05:03,220
a guy he was riding along the road the

3113
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:05,710
seasons Bigfoot creature and then he was

3114
02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:07,810
really reluctant to tell me that it had

3115
02:05:13,650 --> 02:05:10,210
another type of creature with him that

3116
02:05:15,570 --> 02:05:13,660
had glowing eyes so again you know there

3117
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:15,580
made me well be more of these phenomena

3118
02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:18,010
and these mysteries and we understand I

3119
02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:20,290
have a report it's actually an

3120
02:05:24,900 --> 02:05:21,850
eyewitness account from one of our

3121
02:05:27,690 --> 02:05:24,910
posters at perform dr. Peric ascom he's

3122
02:05:31,380 --> 02:05:27,700
a new addition to our foreign family

3123
02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:31,390
same as William J white and he he wrote

3124
02:05:35,550 --> 02:05:33,370
in our question Bank and he mentions his

3125
02:05:37,530 --> 02:05:35,560
sighting he says I grew up in the

3126
02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:37,540
Philadelphia area back in back in the

3127
02:05:42,630 --> 02:05:39,850
winter of 89 I saw something I will

3128
02:05:44,790 --> 02:05:42,640
never forget and that he also will never

3129
02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:44,800
be able to really fully explain in a

3130
02:05:48,420 --> 02:05:46,690
wooded area outside of Valley Forge my

3131
02:05:50,760 --> 02:05:48,430
friend and I saw a grayish colored

3132
02:05:53,700 --> 02:05:50,770
creature that resembled a wingless

3133
02:05:56,190 --> 02:05:53,710
gargoyle it did have red glowing eyes it

3134
02:05:57,480 --> 02:05:56,200
did walk upright but it was hunched over

3135
02:05:59,640 --> 02:05:57,490
it looked like it was about

3136
02:06:01,500 --> 02:05:59,650
five-and-a-half to six feet tall and it

3137
02:06:04,050 --> 02:06:01,510
did not appear to be particularly hairy

3138
02:06:06,090 --> 02:06:04,060
the two of us attempted to communicate

3139
02:06:08,430 --> 02:06:06,100
with the creature but it did not seem to

3140
02:06:11,220 --> 02:06:08,440
understand us I then tried to approach

3141
02:06:12,870 --> 02:06:11,230
it but it ran deeper into the woods when

3142
02:06:14,490 --> 02:06:12,880
we looked over at the direction that the

3143
02:06:16,260 --> 02:06:14,500
creature had run toward we were shocked

3144
02:06:18,840 --> 02:06:16,270
to see the outline of what appeared to

3145
02:06:20,940 --> 02:06:18,850
be more than a dozen of these things it

3146
02:06:23,730 --> 02:06:20,950
was then he got in the car and rather

3147
02:06:25,160 --> 02:06:23,740
quickly left out of fright my friend and

3148
02:06:26,660 --> 02:06:25,170
I returned to this area on new

3149
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:26,670
occasions but we've never had another

3150
02:06:30,890 --> 02:06:29,010
sighting several other people that I

3151
02:06:33,740 --> 02:06:30,900
knew at the time also frequented this

3152
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:33,750
area but none of them told me anything

3153
02:06:38,570 --> 02:06:35,850
similar what do you make of that have

3154
02:06:43,850 --> 02:06:38,580
you had reports of glowing eyed wingless

3155
02:06:46,490 --> 02:06:43,860
gargoyles lurching around the woods when

3156
02:06:48,169 --> 02:06:46,500
we're done a really interesting detailed

3157
02:06:50,180 --> 02:06:48,179
report of an incident happened I didn't

3158
02:06:52,250 --> 02:06:50,190
receive the information until last year

3159
02:06:55,130 --> 02:06:52,260
but it happened in November of 2011 so

3160
02:06:57,470 --> 02:06:55,140
not too long ago but the answer is I

3161
02:06:58,970 --> 02:06:57,480
have had reports and I'm not the only

3162
02:07:01,160 --> 02:06:58,980
one other researchers in the state of

3163
02:07:02,959 --> 02:07:01,170
had reports of gargoyle like flying

3164
02:07:05,060 --> 02:07:02,969
creatures and some were done in eastern

3165
02:07:07,370 --> 02:07:05,070
Pennsylvania and I believe around that

3166
02:07:09,169 --> 02:07:07,380
time period so if that gentleman would

3167
02:07:11,060 --> 02:07:09,179
like to get in touch with me he can go

3168
02:07:15,020 --> 02:07:11,070
to my website and find email address on

3169
02:07:16,640 --> 02:07:15,030
there or it's PA UFO at comcast.net

3170
02:07:19,130 --> 02:07:16,650
and I would like to get some more

3171
02:07:21,169 --> 02:07:19,140
information on what he did see I had

3172
02:07:22,760 --> 02:07:21,179
this really interesting report I've

3173
02:07:24,500 --> 02:07:22,770
heard reports from other states of

3174
02:07:26,959 --> 02:07:24,510
alleged werewolf type things and it's

3175
02:07:30,140 --> 02:07:26,969
not that common here in Pennsylvania but

3176
02:07:33,080 --> 02:07:30,150
this this case is very fascinating and

3177
02:07:35,060 --> 02:07:33,090
it might have maybe some bearing what

3178
02:07:39,709 --> 02:07:35,070
this gentleman is calling it about oh

3179
02:07:43,459 --> 02:07:39,719
we're loose yeah yeah like why actually

3180
02:07:45,410 --> 02:07:43,469
in the brain but also the one witness

3181
02:07:47,870 --> 02:07:45,420
mentions it'll look more like a gargoyle

3182
02:07:50,810 --> 02:07:47,880
William if you're listening and I'm sure

3183
02:07:53,330 --> 02:07:50,820
you are why don't you give Stan shoot

3184
02:07:55,459 --> 02:07:53,340
him an email and get some details to him

3185
02:07:57,800 --> 02:07:55,469
here's a question from Conrad Hartman

3186
02:08:00,380 --> 02:07:57,810
he's been a poster at forum dr. Peric

3187
02:08:02,660 --> 02:08:00,390
ascom for about a year and this is a

3188
02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:02,670
good question it's one that I'm really

3189
02:08:06,430 --> 02:08:04,650
interested to hear your answer early on

3190
02:08:09,650 --> 02:08:06,440
you mentioned that there are traditional

3191
02:08:11,479 --> 02:08:09,660
indigenous peoples legends and myths and

3192
02:08:12,950 --> 02:08:11,489
stories about some of the things we've

3193
02:08:15,020 --> 02:08:12,960
been talking about but his question is

3194
02:08:17,150 --> 02:08:15,030
do any of the creatures or things that

3195
02:08:19,370 --> 02:08:17,160
you have investigated have a reference

3196
02:08:21,709 --> 02:08:19,380
in local indigenous tribal folklore I'm

3197
02:08:22,580 --> 02:08:21,719
aware that some Western tribes talk

3198
02:08:24,620 --> 02:08:22,590
about Thunderbirds

3199
02:08:27,380 --> 02:08:24,630
but do you know if the Shawnee or any of

3200
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the once natives local to Pennsylvania

3201
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tribes mention them were there any

3202
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references to Squatch equivalents or

3203
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hairy men within the pennsylvania tribal

3204
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tradition in folklore I believe yes sir

3205
02:08:41,740 --> 02:08:39,590
unfortunately I don't have a lot of that

3206
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data in front of me right now I know

3207
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Eric Altman over two pounds of a Bigfoot

3208
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society he's done some historical

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studies on these things and there might

3210
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be something about on his website I'm

3211
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not sure but I can tell down in eastern

3212
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Pennsylvania this would be down towards

3213
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the Lancaster area where there have been

3214
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reports of smaller little Bigfoot type

3215
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things I around five feet tall I know

3216
02:09:06,460 --> 02:09:03,800
that some of the Native American legends

3217
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down in that area do talk about some of

3218
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those sightings down that area there

3219
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have been reports of something strange

3220
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seen in some of the rivers around

3221
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Pittsburgh of some kind of a large

3222
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aquatic creature which there apparently

3223
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is some reference to some of the Native

3224
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Americans referring to that as well so

3225
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there are there are Native American

3226
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accounts in Pennsylvania and there are

3227
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others talking about Bigfoot type

3228
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phenomenon state as well but

3229
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unfortunately I don't have that with me

3230
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right now another question from Conrad

3231
02:09:36,280 --> 02:09:34,070
do you have any thoughts about the owl

3232
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bat which is sometimes associated with

3233
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Chiques rock park in Lancaster County

3234
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now first of all what is an owl bat

3235
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which and second of all have you heard

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3354
02:14:58,570 --> 02:14:49,210
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3355
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we're trying to get it right really hard

3356
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Chris and me on the para cast will

3357
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3358
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than he is I'll have to do it real fast

3359
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coming out this year with Johnny Depp he

3362
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just raised that specter of who knows

3363
02:15:23,180 --> 02:15:20,850
how he's going to treat that in any case

3364
02:15:25,370 --> 02:15:23,190
Stan Gordon joins us Chris asked him a

3365
02:15:27,140 --> 02:15:25,380
question in our last segment and we've

3366
02:15:29,360 --> 02:15:27,150
given him plenty of time to think of an

3367
02:15:33,200 --> 02:15:29,370
answer Stan what's it what's an al bat

3368
02:15:35,209 --> 02:15:33,210
which that's what I was referring to in

3369
02:15:37,220 --> 02:15:35,219
the previous star question these are

3370
02:15:39,260 --> 02:15:37,230
some of these smaller bigfoot-like

3371
02:15:40,910 --> 02:15:39,270
creatures small and I believe around

3372
02:15:42,830 --> 02:15:40,920
four and a half five feet tall someone

3373
02:15:45,680 --> 02:15:42,840
that range that historically have been

3374
02:15:47,510 --> 02:15:45,690
reported done in that area and I know

3375
02:15:49,910 --> 02:15:47,520
there is an Indian tribe down that area

3376
02:15:51,770 --> 02:15:49,920
that apparently has some legends about

3377
02:15:53,660 --> 02:15:51,780
seeing these things and there have been

3378
02:15:55,490 --> 02:15:53,670
other in recent years apparently there

3379
02:15:56,209 --> 02:15:55,500
have been some other reports down in the

3380
02:15:59,360 --> 02:15:56,219
general area

3381
02:16:03,170 --> 02:15:59,370
here's an interesting one this the early

3382
02:16:05,540 --> 02:16:03,180
German settlers of the 17th and 18th and

3383
02:16:07,520 --> 02:16:05,550
19th centuries are you aware of any

3384
02:16:09,979 --> 02:16:07,530
references to go back that far

3385
02:16:11,810 --> 02:16:09,989
about cryptids or UFOs within the

3386
02:16:14,720 --> 02:16:11,820
folklore of Pennsylvania German

3387
02:16:18,979 --> 02:16:14,730
immigrants I can't tell you that there

3388
02:16:20,870 --> 02:16:18,989
is a lot of 1800 newspaper stories that

3389
02:16:22,700 --> 02:16:20,880
talk about Bigfoot encounters across

3390
02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:22,710
Pennsylvania and I don't have any of

3391
02:16:25,880 --> 02:16:24,090
those in front of me right now but there

3392
02:16:28,100 --> 02:16:25,890
there's a lot of them out there so

3393
02:16:29,360 --> 02:16:28,110
there's many many accounts and I another

3394
02:16:31,400 --> 02:16:29,370
some accounts even talked about

3395
02:16:33,740 --> 02:16:31,410
incidents up here in the Chestnut Ridge

3396
02:16:35,030 --> 02:16:33,750
area but I know those reports as I

3397
02:16:38,030 --> 02:16:35,040
recall were from all over the state

3398
02:16:39,709 --> 02:16:38,040
including Dunn East and so there was a

3399
02:16:42,379 --> 02:16:39,719
quite a lot of history in the papers

3400
02:16:45,350 --> 02:16:42,389
going back at least to the 1800s here's

3401
02:16:47,120 --> 02:16:45,360
a question from Hal dopo he's a he's

3402
02:16:50,810 --> 02:16:47,130
been a poster here at the para cast

3403
02:16:53,089 --> 02:16:50,820
since September 2012 he says hi Stan my

3404
02:16:55,520 --> 02:16:53,099
wife is originally from Vandergrift

3405
02:16:58,219 --> 02:16:55,530
Pennsylvania have you come across any

3406
02:16:59,990 --> 02:16:58,229
hotbeds of activity in that area

3407
02:17:02,959 --> 02:17:00,000
oh yeah there's a lot of activity around

3408
02:17:04,969 --> 02:17:02,969
Vandergriff stuff about Krypton and UFOs

3409
02:17:07,100 --> 02:17:04,979
stuff years ago we had a lot of

3410
02:17:09,820 --> 02:17:07,110
sightings along the please the Kiska

3411
02:17:11,890 --> 02:17:09,830
Menace River outside of Vandegrift and

3412
02:17:13,390 --> 02:17:11,900
remember one case it is large UFO that

3413
02:17:15,520 --> 02:17:13,400
reportedly hovered over the river and

3414
02:17:18,040 --> 02:17:15,530
was sucking up the water from the river

3415
02:17:21,520 --> 02:17:18,050
up into the craft also back in the 80s

3416
02:17:24,100 --> 02:17:21,530
there was a lot of Bigfoot Black Panther

3417
02:17:26,200 --> 02:17:24,110
other activity near Apollo which is real

3418
02:17:28,330 --> 02:17:26,210
close to the under grift and then more

3419
02:17:30,310 --> 02:17:28,340
recently we had another one those giant

3420
02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:30,320
perch sightings that happened just last

3421
02:17:37,060 --> 02:17:34,010
year actually this was out in Leechburg

3422
02:17:40,060 --> 02:17:37,070
area which is not far from there and

3423
02:17:42,520 --> 02:17:40,070
this occurred where a person was driving

3424
02:17:44,080 --> 02:17:42,530
down the road once again was stopped in

3425
02:17:46,270 --> 02:17:44,090
the middle of the road by a very large

3426
02:17:48,879 --> 02:17:46,280
bird eating some type of roadkill it's

3427
02:17:50,740 --> 02:17:48,889
about 20 feet away and why does this

3428
02:17:53,320 --> 02:17:50,750
thing opened its wings a flapped and

3429
02:17:54,850 --> 02:17:53,330
flew off and went back and measured the

3430
02:17:57,280 --> 02:17:54,860
area and they estimated this thing at

3431
02:17:58,959 --> 02:17:57,290
about a 12-foot wingspan so yes there

3432
02:18:01,570 --> 02:17:58,969
there is a lot of history and there

3433
02:18:03,970 --> 02:18:01,580
still is of UFO activity and other

3434
02:18:05,310 --> 02:18:03,980
cryptid reports and there has been a lot

3435
02:18:07,900 --> 02:18:05,320
of activity up in Armstrong County

3436
02:18:09,669 --> 02:18:07,910
Indiana all around the gen or even the

3437
02:18:12,250 --> 02:18:09,679
last couple of years I have another

3438
02:18:15,250 --> 02:18:12,260
question from Conrad Hartman he asked I

3439
02:18:18,339 --> 02:18:15,260
once saw two large shaggy dark-colored

3440
02:18:20,770 --> 02:18:18,349
cats by Bake Oven knob in Lehigh County

3441
02:18:24,250 --> 02:18:20,780
they certainly weren't Puma sized

3442
02:18:26,169 --> 02:18:24,260
but perhaps Bobcat sized bobcats aren't

3443
02:18:28,390 --> 02:18:26,179
really in Lehigh County that I know of

3444
02:18:30,669 --> 02:18:28,400
and they look different anyway are you

3445
02:18:33,250 --> 02:18:30,679
familiar with accounts of long long

3446
02:18:35,290 --> 02:18:33,260
tailed Bobcat or wild cat sightings in

3447
02:18:37,270 --> 02:18:35,300
the area I'm not familiar with ain't

3448
02:18:39,850 --> 02:18:37,280
black woods if he said did he mention

3449
02:18:42,640 --> 02:18:39,860
black I wasn't sure I'm sorry he said

3450
02:18:45,160 --> 02:18:42,650
yeah too large shaggy dark-colored cats

3451
02:18:47,770 --> 02:18:45,170
but he said they were Bobcat size but

3452
02:18:49,150 --> 02:18:47,780
they had long tails that's interesting

3453
02:18:51,640 --> 02:18:49,160
I'd like to learn more about that also

3454
02:18:53,530 --> 02:18:51,650
uh but there are a root there are

3455
02:18:55,629 --> 02:18:53,540
bobcats and there are a lot of coyotes

3456
02:18:57,430 --> 02:18:55,639
around Pennsylvania so there are a lot

3457
02:18:59,530 --> 02:18:57,440
of misidentifications out there too you

3458
02:19:01,419 --> 02:18:59,540
know depending on sky conditions and

3459
02:19:02,980 --> 02:19:01,429
atmosphere and distance the lighting a

3460
02:19:04,930 --> 02:19:02,990
lot of things out there just like with

3461
02:19:07,209 --> 02:19:04,940
UFOs look unusual one quite often

3462
02:19:10,570 --> 02:19:07,219
there's explanations but I hear these

3463
02:19:13,089 --> 02:19:10,580
stories about very large cats and

3464
02:19:15,280 --> 02:19:13,099
unusual looking animal so some of these

3465
02:19:16,240 --> 02:19:15,290
things are explainable too some are much

3466
02:19:18,820 --> 02:19:16,250
more fascinating

3467
02:19:20,469 --> 02:19:18,830
now you mentioned earlier stories of

3468
02:19:24,490 --> 02:19:20,479
around Pittsburgh of

3469
02:19:27,669 --> 02:19:24,500
of like aquatic anomalies what other

3470
02:19:31,570 --> 02:19:27,679
types of aquatic river or lake anomalies

3471
02:19:33,400 --> 02:19:31,580
have you become aware of Pennsylvania is

3472
02:19:35,890 --> 02:19:33,410
not a state that I personally am aware

3473
02:19:39,219 --> 02:19:35,900
of that has any sort of Nessie's or

3474
02:19:41,980 --> 02:19:39,229
Champy's or these types of aquatic

3475
02:19:44,200 --> 02:19:41,990
anomalies what have you encountered in

3476
02:19:46,120 --> 02:19:44,210
your database over the years there's not

3477
02:19:48,129 --> 02:19:46,130
a lot of reports but there have been

3478
02:19:49,990 --> 02:19:48,139
some I remember when I was doing a lot

3479
02:19:52,090 --> 02:19:50,000
of radio shows back in the 70s in

3480
02:19:55,210 --> 02:19:52,100
Pittsburgh that people were calling in

3481
02:19:57,880 --> 02:19:55,220
about seeing this huge serpentine-like

3482
02:19:58,510 --> 02:19:57,890
creature and one of the rivers inside of

3483
02:20:00,790 --> 02:19:58,520
Pittsburgh

3484
02:20:03,490 --> 02:20:00,800
there have been reports for years off of

3485
02:20:05,440 --> 02:20:03,500
Presque Isle off of Erie Pennsylvania of

3486
02:20:07,330 --> 02:20:05,450
people seeing some large serpentine type

3487
02:20:10,660 --> 02:20:07,340
creature and actually I interviewed a

3488
02:20:13,300 --> 02:20:10,670
guy who had an extremely interesting

3489
02:20:15,880 --> 02:20:13,310
exciting years ago with his family off

3490
02:20:17,950 --> 02:20:15,890
of Presque Isle where he said he saw in

3491
02:20:20,920 --> 02:20:17,960
detail what appeared to be like a place

3492
02:20:23,080 --> 02:20:20,930
or that actually was lying on right on

3493
02:20:24,370 --> 02:20:23,090
the edge of the grounds there and then I

3494
02:20:26,170 --> 02:20:24,380
went back in the water and he thought

3495
02:20:27,610 --> 02:20:26,180
for a very short time as they were

3496
02:20:30,730 --> 02:20:27,620
driving by in the distance but got a

3497
02:20:32,560 --> 02:20:30,740
really good look at it and there have

3498
02:20:35,410 --> 02:20:32,570
been some other reports of something

3499
02:20:37,200 --> 02:20:35,420
large and lakes in Pennsylvania but

3500
02:20:39,850 --> 02:20:37,210
again you know a lot of these could be

3501
02:20:41,710 --> 02:20:39,860
misidentification of there's a very very

3502
02:20:44,560 --> 02:20:41,720
big fish and some of these like some

3503
02:20:45,790 --> 02:20:44,570
Pennsylvania but the reports go on we

3504
02:20:47,860 --> 02:20:45,800
just don't hear about them that often

3505
02:20:50,590 --> 02:20:47,870
mentioned Presque Isle that's always

3506
02:20:53,920 --> 02:20:50,600
intrigued me as an area that's that's

3507
02:20:55,960 --> 02:20:53,930
had traditional reports that go back

3508
02:20:57,820 --> 02:20:55,970
into the Native American traditions if I

3509
02:20:59,620 --> 02:20:57,830
remember correctly what are some of the

3510
02:21:01,810 --> 02:20:59,630
other anomalies that have been reported

3511
02:21:02,320 --> 02:21:01,820
up up in that part of the state on Lake

3512
02:21:05,140 --> 02:21:02,330
Erie

3513
02:21:07,080 --> 02:21:05,150
why do you of those sightings and

3514
02:21:11,760 --> 02:21:07,090
probably one of the most famous cases

3515
02:21:15,550 --> 02:21:11,770
let's see how my memory is July 31st

3516
02:21:18,490 --> 02:21:15,560
1966 I believe was of a UFO landing on

3517
02:21:20,110 --> 02:21:18,500
beach six of Presque Isle that still

3518
02:21:22,660 --> 02:21:20,120
listed in the airforce project Bluebook

3519
02:21:24,640 --> 02:21:22,670
file which of course that was closed

3520
02:21:26,860 --> 02:21:24,650
down officially in 1970 but that's

3521
02:21:30,969 --> 02:21:26,870
fighting a list of as unexplained but

3522
02:21:33,190 --> 02:21:30,979
that involved a a large object that was

3523
02:21:33,970 --> 02:21:33,200
seen by some people and apparently this

3524
02:21:37,960 --> 02:21:33,980
thing land

3525
02:21:39,671 --> 02:21:37,970
on beat six and it caused the response

3526
02:21:42,370 --> 02:21:39,681
from the air force team to come into the

3527
02:21:44,650 --> 02:21:42,380
police found a physical Evan to this but

3528
02:21:46,900 --> 02:21:44,660
as part of that story there was a small

3529
02:21:48,790 --> 02:21:46,910
group of people their vehicle was stuck

3530
02:21:51,070 --> 02:21:48,800
in the sand and others went to get help

3531
02:21:54,280 --> 02:21:51,080
it has this is going on with the UFO

3532
02:21:56,680 --> 02:21:54,290
some kind of tall kind of formless

3533
02:21:58,780 --> 02:21:56,690
gorilla like something came up to the

3534
02:22:02,381 --> 02:21:58,790
car and scratched on it and left the

3535
02:22:05,650 --> 02:22:02,391
area and some of it you know that may be

3536
02:22:07,810 --> 02:22:05,660
one of our first possible cases of UFOs

3537
02:22:09,910 --> 02:22:07,820
and maybe something like a Bigfoot our

3538
02:22:11,801 --> 02:22:09,920
hands it has a dead caught a Bigfoot but

3539
02:22:14,500 --> 02:22:11,811
there was a report of a gorilla like

3540
02:22:16,270 --> 02:22:14,510
figure involved in it that's kind of

3541
02:22:18,131 --> 02:22:16,280
reminiscent of the case that you

3542
02:22:20,740 --> 02:22:18,141
mentioned in your last book about the

3543
02:22:23,440 --> 02:22:20,750
the bigfoot-type creature that that

3544
02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:23,450
clawed I wasn't was it the trunk oh yeah

3545
02:22:27,761 --> 02:22:25,610
that's a really intriguing case by the

3546
02:22:29,740 --> 02:22:27,771
way if the right dimension people are

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interested in my book is or solids Asian

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also really mystery is Pennsylvania they

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case was again up in Derry countship

3555
02:22:49,930 --> 02:22:46,910
that again is that area along the

3556
02:22:51,671 --> 02:22:49,940
Chestnut Ridge that has had so many

3557
02:22:53,890 --> 02:22:51,681
sightings and encounters from so many

3558
02:22:55,890 --> 02:22:53,900
different people over the years even in

3559
02:22:58,450 --> 02:22:55,900
the last years we've had reports of

3560
02:22:59,980 --> 02:22:58,460
activity out there and this was a very

3561
02:23:03,460 --> 02:22:59,990
weird case this happened

3562
02:23:05,200 --> 02:23:03,470
March 12th 1997 and this occurred around

3563
02:23:07,150 --> 02:23:05,210
3 o'clock in the morning I got the call

3564
02:23:09,430 --> 02:23:07,160
he's I'm gonna guess probably 4 or 4:30

3565
02:23:13,330 --> 02:23:09,440
in the morning it was such a fascinating

3566
02:23:15,700 --> 02:23:13,340
case that I got out to the next day to

3567
02:23:18,341 --> 02:23:15,710
interview the people to take photographs

3568
02:23:21,551 --> 02:23:18,351
and it was very interesting and this

3569
02:23:23,350 --> 02:23:21,561
involved several fellows who worked

3570
02:23:27,820 --> 02:23:23,360
during the night and they're on this

3571
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back road dark road and a hubcap came

3572
02:23:30,960 --> 02:23:29,480
off one of the vehicle out their vehicle

3573
02:23:33,160 --> 02:23:30,970
and they rolled across the run into this

3574
02:23:36,430 --> 02:23:33,170
field where there's a lot of old car

3575
02:23:38,080 --> 02:23:36,440
bodies so they pulled up the road

3576
02:23:40,091 --> 02:23:38,090
because let me place a park around there

3577
02:23:41,440 --> 02:23:40,101
and one kid sat in the vehicle and the

3578
02:23:43,480 --> 02:23:41,450
other two guys decided to go look for

3579
02:23:44,801 --> 02:23:43,490
the will cover so they're walking around

3580
02:23:46,940 --> 02:23:44,811
and here they're like this metal on

3581
02:23:50,080 --> 02:23:46,950
metal sound then you hear like this

3582
02:23:53,540 --> 02:23:50,090
in south on a person was a dog and

3583
02:23:55,040 --> 02:23:53,550
anyhow they hear some noise ahead of

3584
02:23:57,530 --> 02:23:55,050
them the shiner flashlights ahead

3585
02:23:59,330 --> 02:23:57,540
instead of a dog here's this huge white

3586
02:24:01,490 --> 02:23:59,340
hair forever evil ape-like creature

3587
02:24:03,290 --> 02:24:01,500
rising up from the ground and they're

3588
02:24:05,150 --> 02:24:03,300
both panicking the one guy runs out

3589
02:24:06,560 --> 02:24:05,160
yelling the other guy stood there for

3590
02:24:08,120 --> 02:24:06,570
several seconds just trying to get a

3591
02:24:10,250 --> 02:24:08,130
good look at this thing try to figure

3592
02:24:12,020 --> 02:24:10,260
out what the heck this thing was you'll

3593
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finish that in the next segment we have

3594
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Stan Gordon explaining the frightening

3595
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sighting of a gorilla kind of thing or

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amazing stories from Stan Gordon UFOs

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and strange creatures and this one's got

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to drive you back doesn't it Stan yeah

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see the creatures at that point but

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anyhow they gotta remember it's around

3728
02:29:32,251 --> 02:29:29,501
three o'clock in the morning it's a it's

3729
02:29:33,841 --> 02:29:32,261
a very isolated area out there and as

3730
02:29:37,140 --> 02:29:33,851
we're writing as they're leaving the

3731
02:29:39,890 --> 02:29:37,150
scene there's a real nice new Chevy

3732
02:29:42,270 --> 02:29:39,900
dually will Chevy dual wheel truck

3733
02:29:45,180 --> 02:29:42,280
coming up in a high rate of speed in the

3734
02:29:47,371 --> 02:29:45,190
opposite direction and they watch as

3735
02:29:49,350 --> 02:29:47,381
this car pull this truck other truck

3736
02:29:51,841 --> 02:29:49,360
pulls off on a side road then turns

3737
02:29:53,881 --> 02:29:51,851
around and for whatever reason begins to

3738
02:29:55,381 --> 02:29:53,891
follow them down the road so they're

3739
02:29:57,390 --> 02:29:55,391
down the road and the Chevy truck

3740
02:29:59,400 --> 02:29:57,400
increases its speed and it comes right

3741
02:30:01,980 --> 02:29:59,410
up on the rear bumper of their vehicle

3742
02:30:03,600 --> 02:30:01,990
they said it almost like it was trying

3743
02:30:05,820 --> 02:30:03,610
to get the license number then it turns

3744
02:30:09,030 --> 02:30:05,830
the lights up and it backs onto a side

3745
02:30:10,440 --> 02:30:09,040
road so anyhow they're still all upset

3746
02:30:11,850 --> 02:30:10,450
about what is this thing why these

3747
02:30:14,070 --> 02:30:11,860
people were after us and what was that

3748
02:30:16,261 --> 02:30:14,080
thing we saw so they go back to the one

3749
02:30:18,241 --> 02:30:16,271
guy's residence wasn't too far from

3750
02:30:19,470 --> 02:30:18,251
there and they're talking about this and

3751
02:30:21,751 --> 02:30:19,480
a one guy says you know I need to go

3752
02:30:25,591 --> 02:30:21,761
back see if I get my keys and that nice

3753
02:30:27,241 --> 02:30:25,601
so he and the one other guy they get

3754
02:30:32,100 --> 02:30:27,251
into this they go back in this other

3755
02:30:33,720 --> 02:30:32,110
vehicle and this vehicle was modified

3756
02:30:36,060 --> 02:30:33,730
with a high-speed engine in for this guy

3757
02:30:37,741 --> 02:30:36,070
for racing he did anyhow they took with

3758
02:30:38,850 --> 02:30:37,751
them a converter automobile like did

3759
02:30:40,501 --> 02:30:38,860
they use it was like a high-powered

3760
02:30:42,570 --> 02:30:40,511
spotlight so to get down to the area

3761
02:30:44,881 --> 02:30:42,580
where all the core bodies are and

3762
02:30:46,501 --> 02:30:44,891
they're shining around and they're

3763
02:30:48,780 --> 02:30:46,511
shining and hitting the car bodies and

3764
02:30:51,091 --> 02:30:48,790
suddenly the creature comes around some

3765
02:30:52,470 --> 02:30:51,101
of the car bodies and they're hitting

3766
02:30:53,881 --> 02:30:52,480
this thing right in the face with this

3767
02:30:54,390 --> 02:30:53,891
light this blinding light and you can

3768
02:30:57,360 --> 02:30:54,400
see this

3769
02:30:59,070 --> 02:30:57,370
thing has his hands up to with eyes try

3770
02:31:02,251 --> 02:30:59,080
to shade itself from the internal light

3771
02:31:03,780 --> 02:31:02,261
and anyhow this thing starts coming

3772
02:31:06,390 --> 02:31:03,790
after them I mean it's moving really

3773
02:31:07,711 --> 02:31:06,400
fast on two legs up right and it begins

3774
02:31:09,240 --> 02:31:07,721
to chase the car in the set of guys

3775
02:31:11,160 --> 02:31:09,250
within three feet of the cause the rear

3776
02:31:13,291 --> 02:31:11,170
bumper and then it really gassed and

3777
02:31:15,690 --> 02:31:13,301
they got out of there so anyhow that's

3778
02:31:18,360 --> 02:31:15,700
not the end of the story so heady how

3779
02:31:20,551 --> 02:31:18,370
they get down back to the place and

3780
02:31:23,011 --> 02:31:20,561
anyhow the guy still can get his stuff

3781
02:31:24,810 --> 02:31:23,021
so the third guy needs to go home he

3782
02:31:26,820 --> 02:31:24,820
lived a little further down a road so

3783
02:31:30,060 --> 02:31:26,830
the guy would be the souped-up car takes

3784
02:31:31,591 --> 02:31:30,070
him down drops him off and and his last

3785
02:31:33,150 --> 02:31:31,601
thought is I better make a run back

3786
02:31:35,461 --> 02:31:33,160
there again to see if I can find my keys

3787
02:31:37,320 --> 02:31:35,471
in the knife so he goes down around the

3788
02:31:39,211 --> 02:31:37,330
area everything is dark doesn't see

3789
02:31:41,700 --> 02:31:39,221
anything at the time he's looking around

3790
02:31:43,921 --> 02:31:41,710
the area very slowly habits look down I

3791
02:31:46,110 --> 02:31:43,931
think was the knife he's a knight for

3792
02:31:48,740 --> 02:31:46,120
the keys and he saw them on the ground

3793
02:31:51,690 --> 02:31:48,750
so they opened up the door it grabs that

3794
02:31:53,610 --> 02:31:51,700
anyhow suddenly he feels a big thump

3795
02:31:55,770 --> 02:31:53,620
towards the rear of the car and it looks

3796
02:31:58,381 --> 02:31:55,780
in a rearview mirror and here's this big

3797
02:31:59,940 --> 02:31:58,391
hairy creature with the eyes are kind of

3798
02:32:02,091 --> 02:31:59,950
glowing kind of a reddish glow which he

3799
02:32:04,860 --> 02:32:02,101
said maybe came from there the rear

3800
02:32:07,470 --> 02:32:04,870
taillights but he wasn't sure looking at

3801
02:32:09,541 --> 02:32:07,480
him right through the window so the

3802
02:32:12,390 --> 02:32:09,551
man's gassing the car he sit in the car

3803
02:32:15,121 --> 02:32:12,400
and I mean this car the tailpipes are

3804
02:32:18,001 --> 02:32:15,131
starting to vibrate so loud and he said

3805
02:32:20,430 --> 02:32:18,011
he kept gassing and gas and suddenly the

3806
02:32:22,320 --> 02:32:20,440
creature doesn't let go he said probably

3807
02:32:26,551 --> 02:32:22,330
from the sound of this thing of the

3808
02:32:27,990 --> 02:32:26,561
tailpipes and it the car swerved and he

3809
02:32:29,671 --> 02:32:28,000
kind of lost control for a second then

3810
02:32:31,980 --> 02:32:29,681
got it back on the road and I ran went

3811
02:32:33,871 --> 02:32:31,990
down the road and he was very very upset

3812
02:32:35,640 --> 02:32:33,881
he went to a little 24-hour convenience

3813
02:32:38,430 --> 02:32:35,650
store and he went in to get a cup of

3814
02:32:40,230 --> 02:32:38,440
coffee and he had his car in sight the

3815
02:32:42,091 --> 02:32:40,240
whole time through the window and notice

3816
02:32:44,490 --> 02:32:42,101
this group of kids pulled up like

3817
02:32:45,631 --> 02:32:44,500
teenagers in the car what a few down

3818
02:32:48,150 --> 02:32:45,641
from his and they were kind of looking

3819
02:32:51,331 --> 02:32:48,160
at his car and but they never touched

3820
02:32:53,930 --> 02:32:51,341
the car and he's walking outside and one

3821
02:32:56,490 --> 02:32:53,940
of the guys was the marring the car and

3822
02:32:58,261 --> 02:32:56,500
the one guy said to him what happened

3823
02:33:00,180 --> 02:32:58,271
something long ago I like what happened

3824
02:33:01,890 --> 02:33:00,190
did you get attacked by a bear or

3825
02:33:04,140 --> 02:33:01,900
something and he said what are you

3826
02:33:06,990 --> 02:33:04,150
talking about and he goes over to look

3827
02:33:08,041 --> 02:33:07,000
at the trunk of the car and there's

3828
02:33:10,591 --> 02:33:08,051
these huge

3829
02:33:12,541 --> 02:33:10,601
huge scratches just torn right through

3830
02:33:16,951 --> 02:33:12,551
the paintin metal on a rear of the

3831
02:33:18,780 --> 02:33:16,961
vehicle like big claw marks so any now I

3832
02:33:20,791 --> 02:33:18,790
get to call on around early in the

3833
02:33:23,310 --> 02:33:20,801
morning from the one guy and I make

3834
02:33:24,991 --> 02:33:23,320
arrangements to go out then technically

3835
02:33:28,501 --> 02:33:25,001
interview him and take a look at the car

3836
02:33:30,390 --> 02:33:28,511
and I had caught also one of the primary

3837
02:33:33,060 --> 02:33:30,400
witnesses and talked to him about it so

3838
02:33:34,440 --> 02:33:33,070
I get down there to the next day and the

3839
02:33:35,791 --> 02:33:34,450
one guy's not the area and I thought

3840
02:33:39,360 --> 02:33:35,801
have to when the other guy was a little

3841
02:33:42,030 --> 02:33:39,370
hesitant to talk to me and I said what's

3842
02:33:44,430 --> 02:33:42,040
going on said well the other guy right

3843
02:33:48,241 --> 02:33:44,440
after you talk to him he got a really

3844
02:33:51,030 --> 02:33:48,251
unusual phone call and he said it went

3845
02:33:53,190 --> 02:33:51,040
something like this and this is what the

3846
02:33:54,751 --> 02:33:53,200
guy told me and then later I did

3847
02:33:57,060 --> 02:33:54,761
interview the guy and he confirmed this

3848
02:33:58,440 --> 02:33:57,070
he said he got a phone call soon after I

3849
02:34:00,150 --> 02:33:58,450
talked to him and the phone call was

3850
02:34:03,150 --> 02:34:00,160
something along the line that this is

3851
02:34:05,220 --> 02:34:03,160
field agent so-and-so from the Federal

3852
02:34:07,650 --> 02:34:05,230
Bureau of Investigation but the incident

3853
02:34:09,720 --> 02:34:07,660
last night forget about what you saw and

3854
02:34:11,520 --> 02:34:09,730
I strongly suggest you talk don't talk

3855
02:34:13,680 --> 02:34:11,530
any further with Stan Gordon and then

3856
02:34:16,491 --> 02:34:13,690
the guy hung up the other guy why

3857
02:34:18,871 --> 02:34:16,501
wouldn't he say that yeah that was well

3858
02:34:19,980 --> 02:34:18,881
it was very upset he didn't want to talk

3859
02:34:22,320 --> 02:34:19,990
to me talking the next day and he

3860
02:34:26,011 --> 02:34:22,330
finally did they're listening to you

3861
02:34:27,751 --> 02:34:26,021
Stan and then the other fellow who was

3862
02:34:30,301 --> 02:34:27,761
with them he still lived with his

3863
02:34:34,230 --> 02:34:30,311
parents and apparently he got a similar

3864
02:34:35,850 --> 02:34:34,240
message and apparently according to what

3865
02:34:38,310 --> 02:34:35,860
happened with his family that afternoon

3866
02:34:42,001 --> 02:34:38,320
two men that do actually there were two

3867
02:34:45,030 --> 02:34:42,011
Chevy caprices too many his vehicle came

3868
02:34:46,741 --> 02:34:45,040
out to talk to him and apparently about

3869
02:34:49,261 --> 02:34:46,751
the same situation but they he wasn't

3870
02:34:51,930 --> 02:34:49,271
there and they never showed up again now

3871
02:34:53,730 --> 02:34:51,940
I have no way confirm this was the FBI I

3872
02:34:55,980 --> 02:34:53,740
did write them a letter about this I

3873
02:34:59,190 --> 02:34:55,990
never did receive a reply on this but

3874
02:35:01,560 --> 02:34:59,200
the fellows were we'll quite upset and

3875
02:35:04,171 --> 02:35:01,570
like the one guy says why would I go and

3876
02:35:05,850 --> 02:35:04,181
damage my beautiful car and put somebody

3877
02:35:09,150 --> 02:35:05,860
how am I gonna tell my insurance company

3878
02:35:10,530 --> 02:35:09,160
that I was attacked by monster I imagine

3879
02:35:13,081 --> 02:35:10,540
that would be a very interesting way for

3880
02:35:15,001 --> 02:35:13,091
them to file that claim and they come

3881
02:35:19,440 --> 02:35:15,011
back and they say well you were drinking

3882
02:35:20,940 --> 02:35:19,450
what now it's a very very interesting

3883
02:35:21,660 --> 02:35:20,950
case and there is a picture of the

3884
02:35:23,820 --> 02:35:21,670
scratch marks

3885
02:35:26,790 --> 02:35:23,830
the pork yeah which is quite impressive

3886
02:35:28,500 --> 02:35:26,800
that's why I brought it up well you know

3887
02:35:30,000 --> 02:35:28,510
that brings up the specter of the men in

3888
02:35:32,280 --> 02:35:30,010
black we haven't even touched on that

3889
02:35:34,260 --> 02:35:32,290
subject next time you're on the show

3890
02:35:36,020 --> 02:35:34,270
we're gonna have to talk about some of

3891
02:35:39,420 --> 02:35:36,030
the potential government military

3892
02:35:41,250 --> 02:35:39,430
intelligence agency involve involvement

3893
02:35:44,160 --> 02:35:41,260
in some of these cases over the years

3894
02:35:45,660 --> 02:35:44,170
and I know there have been obviously

3895
02:35:47,460 --> 02:35:45,670
with the Kecksburg case being the

3896
02:35:50,429 --> 02:35:47,470
classic example early on in your career

3897
02:35:53,340 --> 02:35:50,439
there have been cases where it's pretty

3898
02:35:55,770 --> 02:35:53,350
much a given that the government has

3899
02:35:56,910 --> 02:35:55,780
been involved so just quickly what are

3900
02:35:58,800 --> 02:35:56,920
your feelings about do you think the

3901
02:36:00,780 --> 02:35:58,810
government is involved in monitoring

3902
02:36:01,380 --> 02:36:00,790
some of these hot spot areas in the

3903
02:36:04,380 --> 02:36:01,390
state

3904
02:36:06,840 --> 02:36:04,390
my feeling is now after a lot of years

3905
02:36:10,290 --> 02:36:06,850
doing this and different events and yes

3906
02:36:11,910 --> 02:36:10,300
cases of a better term mystery men that

3907
02:36:14,580 --> 02:36:11,920
apparently got involved in some of the

3908
02:36:15,960 --> 02:36:14,590
cases I was investigating my feeling is

3909
02:36:17,940 --> 02:36:15,970
that the government does have an

3910
02:36:20,429 --> 02:36:17,950
interest in both UFOs and Bigfoot

3911
02:36:22,410 --> 02:36:20,439
phenomena and I'm from other sources I

3912
02:36:24,870 --> 02:36:22,420
have I believe this to be the case

3913
02:36:26,490 --> 02:36:24,880
my feeling is this my feeling is that

3914
02:36:28,590 --> 02:36:26,500
the government is very much aware of

3915
02:36:31,440 --> 02:36:28,600
these phenomena let's say UFOs in

3916
02:36:33,630 --> 02:36:31,450
particular however my my understanding

3917
02:36:35,100 --> 02:36:33,640
is my feeling is the government does not

3918
02:36:36,030 --> 02:36:35,110
have all the answers themselves about

3919
02:36:38,190 --> 02:36:36,040
what's going on

3920
02:36:39,600 --> 02:36:38,200
it's an international phenomenon there's

3921
02:36:41,310 --> 02:36:39,610
nothing they can do about it and

3922
02:36:43,830 --> 02:36:41,320
therefore they're just remaining quiet

3923
02:36:46,110 --> 02:36:43,840
on the subject and possibly denying

3924
02:36:47,790 --> 02:36:46,120
everything that also helps Stan Gordon

3925
02:36:49,560 --> 02:36:47,800
tell our listeners where they can find

3926
02:36:51,900 --> 02:36:49,570
more of the stuff that you continue to

3927
02:36:53,610 --> 02:36:51,910
work on well they can reach me through

3928
02:36:56,760 --> 02:36:53,620
email or phone by way of my website

3929
02:36:58,920 --> 02:36:56,770
which is Stan Gordon dot info INF oh and

3930
02:37:00,990 --> 02:36:58,930
if they want to get copies of my books

3931
02:37:03,660 --> 02:37:01,000
or my DVD on Kecksburg that's available

3932
02:37:06,030 --> 02:37:03,670
through Amazon Barnes & Noble or through

3933
02:37:07,290 --> 02:37:06,040
my website that's one way to do it and

3934
02:37:07,710 --> 02:37:07,300
what are you working on in the near

3935
02:37:10,710 --> 02:37:07,720
future

3936
02:37:12,270 --> 02:37:10,720
well I'm continually working on current

3937
02:37:14,670 --> 02:37:12,280
reports as all the reports coming in

3938
02:37:16,740 --> 02:37:14,680
always working on various projects so

3939
02:37:18,270 --> 02:37:16,750
the best thing is there's many I have

3940
02:37:21,060 --> 02:37:18,280
many speaking engagements and many

3941
02:37:22,980 --> 02:37:21,070
events coming up this year so people can

3942
02:37:25,380 --> 02:37:22,990
check my website under events and news

3943
02:37:27,570 --> 02:37:25,390
and they can keep updated on what's

3944
02:37:29,370 --> 02:37:27,580
coming up and inevitably he'll be back

3945
02:37:32,429 --> 02:37:29,380
on the power cast we have to ask our

3946
02:37:35,219 --> 02:37:32,439
friend Chris O'Brien our hard-working

3947
02:37:38,130 --> 02:37:35,229
co-host where can they find more of your

3948
02:37:39,690 --> 02:37:38,140
stuff that you're working on well you

3949
02:37:42,960 --> 02:37:39,700
know we do live in the strange planet

3950
02:37:45,750 --> 02:37:42,970
it's our strange planet com+ I'm on

3951
02:37:48,870 --> 02:37:45,760
Facebook I've just put up some pretty

3952
02:37:51,150 --> 02:37:48,880
interesting clips from the many cattle

3953
02:37:53,100 --> 02:37:51,160
mutilation cases that I've investigated

3954
02:37:55,170 --> 02:37:53,110
next time stanza I'm gonna have to talk

3955
02:37:57,750 --> 02:37:55,180
about that particular phenomenon but

3956
02:38:00,330 --> 02:37:57,760
it's our strange planet.com gene and by

3957
02:38:01,920 --> 02:38:00,340
the way we'll soon have a book ordering

3958
02:38:04,920 --> 02:38:01,930
system over there so you can buy his

3959
02:38:07,080 --> 02:38:04,930
books or DVDs whatever it's a work in

3960
02:38:07,860 --> 02:38:07,090
progress and these things with web

3961
02:38:10,679 --> 02:38:07,870
development

3962
02:38:12,600 --> 02:38:10,689
continue to take time and later this

3963
02:38:15,179 --> 02:38:12,610
year this fall Chris has a new book out

3964
02:38:16,800 --> 02:38:15,189
called stalking the herd were you going

3965
02:38:19,140 --> 02:38:16,810
to learn about years and years of

3966
02:38:22,140 --> 02:38:19,150
research into mysterious cattle deaths

3967
02:38:25,290 --> 02:38:22,150
and cattle mutilations of course you can

3968
02:38:27,990 --> 02:38:25,300
find us the para cast on Facebook we are

3969
02:38:29,760 --> 02:38:28,000
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3970
02:38:31,230 --> 02:38:29,770
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3971
02:38:33,179 --> 02:38:31,240
by the way and one day we'll figure out

3972
02:38:36,420 --> 02:38:33,189
how to integrate them if it's possible

3973
02:38:38,340 --> 02:38:36,430
also on Twitter we are the power cast or

3974
02:38:41,820 --> 02:38:38,350
check our web portal with our forums and

3975
02:38:43,260 --> 02:38:41,830
everything the para cast com Stan warden

3976
02:38:46,230 --> 02:38:43,270
thank you very much for joining us this

3977
02:38:55,580 --> 02:38:46,240
week on the power cast thanks for having

3978
02:39:01,980 --> 02:38:59,100
the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

3979
02:39:05,000 --> 02:39:01,990
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3980
02:39:08,730 --> 02:39:05,010
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3981
02:39:13,070 --> 02:39:08,740
Incorporated tune in next week for a new